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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 11, 2008 2:00:59 GMT -5
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 11, 2008 2:26:34 GMT -5
This all really depends on one thing.
Can Darktide's armor absorb Nuvi's attacks?
Likely, yes, but I need OR's word on this.
If yes, Nuvi is almost as badly screwed as Sage was, almost nothing he has can hurt Darktide, while the Impact Cannons are going to wreak havoc on whatever form he decides to take, not to mention the Harmonics disruptor can really screw him over as well, if Darktide decides to use it.
Nuvi's only saving grace is that he can actually deal damage that will last, since Darktide has no regen. But still... Its fricken hard to damage that mech, seeing as how slashing or bludgeoning weapons aren't going to be much good at all, and the weapon types that Nuvi CAN use won't deal enough damage to keep up with Darktide's assault. The Ion Linear Cannon is a bit of a non factor here, seeing as how Nuvi doesn't have any organs to penetrate. Though... if its fast enough, that Plasma Grenade function could really hurt...
Simply put, Darktide can deal more damage to Nuvi then vice-versa in a similar amount of time.
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Post by yaburu on Aug 11, 2008 13:40:36 GMT -5
Why do I always draw the tough ones?
Bah, anyways. DT's armor absorbs heat. Not sure if Nuvi's energy attacks will cause much heat. But they do have concussive abilities.
The slashing/blunt force reduction is going to suck, but once Nuvi realizes that, he's going to switch to a piercing strategy, and THAT'S going to work. The energy surge will also help, as that'll wreck his internal systems.
Another strategy will be to use energy blasts on the ground around him, causing Darktide to fall, at least long enough for a good impalement. And if Nuvi decides to tack on an energy charge to whatever weapon he's stabbing with?
Ouch. Especially if he decides to go for the neck or thereabouts, which he very likely will once he realizes how dangerous Darktide is.
Nuvi.
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 11, 2008 14:19:43 GMT -5
Why do I always draw the tough ones? Bah, anyways. DT's armor absorbs heat. Not sure if Nuvi's energy attacks will cause much heat. But they do have concussive abilities. We don't know what type of energy Nuvi uses, and Darktide can also absorb electrical and plasma energy. Three energys to take advantage of, and if Nuvi uses any of them... Well he's screwed. Piercing weapons don't tend to cover a large radius, even if kaiju-sized, it'll take at least a few hundred stabs to deal enough damage that would make Darktide worry, ignoring the energy charge part. The energy surge might be debateable... The whole 'making the groud collaspe around Darktide to create an opening' is a feasable strategy, but I doubt it will last forever. And that energy charge is going to be pretty badly wasted if Darktide decides to pull its barrier fields out. |
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Post by yaburu on Aug 11, 2008 14:58:51 GMT -5
Not if they pierce the right spot. Not sure where DT's vital spots are though.
The energy charge will go off once the weapon has already pierced, which means it will go off inside DT. Barrier fields protect the outside.
But yeah, we do need OR to explain more about the way DT absorbs energy and all that good stuff.
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 11, 2008 15:19:05 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. When I mentioned the barrier fields, I had forgetten to mention that Darktide might pull them out before the weapon hits.
My apologies.
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Post by Omegarex24 on Aug 11, 2008 16:57:55 GMT -5
Well, this really does depend on precisely what kinds of energy Nuvi produces. If it's any of the kinds Darktide can absorb, then Nuvi can't touch him with ranged assaults and a good bit of his close range tactics either.
However, Darkitde's primarly useful weapon here, the Impact Cannons, does have limited ammo reserves, which means if he fails to knock Nuvi out with the 24 rounds he carries, he'll have to fall back on missiles, because he'll find out very quickly that Nuvi controls and redirects energy assaults, such as his Hyper NOVA.
Before I render my verdict, I do need to know...if you destroy Nuvi's physical shell, does that "defeat" him, or can he regenerate said shell and continue battle indefinately?
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 11, 2008 17:05:09 GMT -5
In Yab's defence, one has to exhaust Nuvi to defeat him, as he can recreate the shell, but again, this battle largely depends on what kind of energy Nuvi utilizes.
And OR, will the Harmonics Disruptor play any part in this, seeing as Nuvi needs to expend energy to reform his body? (which puts him closer to defeat)
Also, couldn't Darktide punch a hole in Nuvi's body with the Impact Cannons, and then immediately follow up with a beam because Nuvi will likely be off guard from the sheer force of the Impact Cannon shot?
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Post by yaburu on Aug 11, 2008 17:13:07 GMT -5
You know, I've never really touched up on exactly what kind of energy Nuvi uses. Nuvi IS energy himself, so the knee-jerk answer is all of it, Nuvi can choose and control whatever kind of energy he wants to use.
And yes, destroying Nuvi's shell will just force him to create a new one, expending energy as he does it. Nuvi basically goes from 100% to 0% in terms of combat effectiveness and such. One second, he'll be fighting as hard as he can, and literally the next one, he's gone, poof.
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Post by Omegarex24 on Aug 11, 2008 17:17:34 GMT -5
Well, in the case of Nuvi's energy, Darktide's armor will wither be able to negate it outright in some cases, or at the least, reduce its effectiveness.
Also, the Harmonics Disruptor can wreak all kinds of havoc with Nuvi, as his shell is probably made of the same chemical composition, regardless of wat form he takes. It may take a moment to bring the HD into play, but once he does, he can continuously shatter the shell, forcing Nuvi to recreate it. The Impact Cannons and Hydra Missiles are also gonna cause a lot of damage. Darktide can win this if he stays away form Nuvi, but it won't be easy.
So, for a tentative victory...Darktide.
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 12, 2008 2:04:11 GMT -5
For reasons I've stated before, I believe that Darktide will be victorious.
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Post by yaburu on Aug 12, 2008 13:30:56 GMT -5
Yes, yes he most certainly can. Problem with that is that Darktide must be within 50 meters of Nuvi to use it effectively, which for kaiju qualifies as close range, and you yourself said that Darktide can beat him if he stays away from him.
Also, once Nuvi realizes Darktide can just shatter his shell, he's going to probably stick with his pure energy form for a while. A dangerous gambit, yes, but if he can get behind DT and blast the ground, he can reform quickly and impale him with a weapon, charging it up with energy once it's inside to really pour on the hurt.
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Post by destoroyah on Aug 14, 2008 23:58:22 GMT -5
Is it possible for Darktide to completely absorb Nuvi in energy form?
Anywho, I see Darktide MK II winning. His armor should be able to resist or maybe absorb some of Nuvi's energy attacks and if he can hammer Nuvi with his cannons and missiles while he's reforming then Nuvi is screwed.
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 16, 2008 21:17:59 GMT -5
If Nuvi can truly use any type of energy (which is very possible, since any type of energy can be transformed into any other type of energy), he could really put the hurt on Darktide once he realizes the mech can absorb some of his attacks. Concentrated bolts of pure kinetic energy, anyone? He could potentially screw with the Harmonics Disruptor, too, since it uses sound energy.
I'm still undecided at the moment, but the more I think about it the more I lean toward Nuvi.
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Post by Monster Master on Aug 17, 2008 10:59:10 GMT -5
Nuvi.
As said, if Nuvi can use any sort of energy, then he's gonna' be messing up a lot of DT's attacks.
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