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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 4, 2008 21:08:54 GMT -5
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Post by Monster Master on Aug 4, 2008 21:46:31 GMT -5
Syntrox.
Syntrox has the upper-hand in power and reach when it comes to a brawl. And he also has an attack he loves to use at any given point: The Electrical Laser Horn. It won't be an easy match, and I don't see Syntrox going unharmed, but the laser horn is going to hurt Suchodon worser and faster than Sucho can do to him.
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 5, 2008 0:14:49 GMT -5
The problem with fighting Suchodon is actually managing to hit him. We're talking a kaiju that was able to dodge Megaguirus here. Against larger opponents, he strikes then immediately pulls away, letting his foe weaken from blood loss and his venom. Once they're weakened, he goes in and finishes them off. A swipe from his claws could damn near disembowel Syntrox, let alone sever some important muscles in his legs. He could even break Syntrox's arm if he got a good enough chomp in. And his venom is nothing to take lightly, either.
Suchodon.
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Post by Monster Master on Aug 5, 2008 2:16:47 GMT -5
The problem with fighting Suchodon is actually managing to hit him. We're talking a kaiju that was able to dodge Megaguirus here. Against larger opponents, he strikes then immediately pulls away, letting his foe weaken from blood loss and his venom. Once they're weakened, he goes in and finishes them off. A swipe from his claws could damn near disembowel Syntrox, let alone sever some important muscles in his legs. He could even break Syntrox's arm if he got a good enough chomp in. And his venom is nothing to take lightly, either. Suchodon. That might just work if Syntrox didn't have his laser horn, but the problem here: he does. The horn is fast and requires no charge time. By the time Suchodon begins to come forward, the horns gonna' be ready to cut his head in half. Even if not, we're talking about a kaiju that was capable of crushing Kiryu's chest with a single Kangaroo Kick. A blow like that to Suchodon is gonna' cripple him. Even if Sucho has already latched onto his arm. |
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 5, 2008 13:50:11 GMT -5
That might just work if Syntrox didn't have his laser horn, but the problem here: he does. The horn is fast and requires no charge time. By the time Suchodon begins to come forward, the horns gonna' be ready to cut his head in half. Even if not, we're talking about a kaiju that was capable of crushing Kiryu's chest with a single Kangaroo Kick. A blow like that to Suchodon is gonna' cripple him. Even if Sucho has already latched onto his arm. Put simply, there's no way Suchodon is going to allow himself to get hit by the Kangaroo Kick. It's such an obvious attack, what with the rearing up on the tail and all. And Sucho isn't blind. If he's rushing toward Syntrox and sees a huge energy blade coming out of its head, he's either going to stop in his tracks or sidestep and latch onto the side of its neck to prevent a sideways swing. |
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Post by Monster Master on Aug 5, 2008 15:58:00 GMT -5
And what's stoping Syntrox from turning with him? He's not slow, nor is he immobile and dumb.
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Post by GojiLord on Aug 5, 2008 17:03:10 GMT -5
This is a tough one to call.. Suchodon has his quickness and tooth and claw. And Syntrox got the laser horn and what not. Tough one, but I choose.
Syntrox Basically He will just wear Suchodon down and just basically finish it up with his nasal horn. Like I said tough one but Syntox comes out the winner.
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 5, 2008 22:16:49 GMT -5
And what's stoping Syntrox from turning with him? He's not slow, nor is he immobile and dumb. The fact that he's swinging downwards and then Sucho's holding onto his neck or head, for two. And if he swings his head sideways to try and slash at Sucho, he'll just stick the side of his head in Sucho's jaw, at which point he's completely screwed. This is a tough one to call.. Suchodon has his quickness and tooth and claw. And Syntrox got the laser horn and what not. Tough one, but I choose. SyntroxYou didn't really provide reasons for your choice. You just named a couple traits each fighter has. |
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Post by Monster Master on Aug 6, 2008 2:32:49 GMT -5
And what's stopping Syntrox from then say...
A. Bringing his tail around and slamming its many spikes into Suchodon.
B. Sending an electrical current through his body to shock Sucho.
C. Spitting a wad of acid goo.
D. All of the Above.
You're downplaying Syntrox's own speed and power here also. He's not going to just sit there, let Sucho walk up, and bite him. The laser horn is fast, by the time Sucho's even closing in, croc-face is gonna' be either killed or wounded.
Suchodon would be utterly screwed if he actually tried LEAPING at Syntrox. He's not gonna' move or turn at all in mid-air, and Syntrox will just love to repeat what he did to Fire Rodan's wing to Suchodon's arm or head.
Hell, even if Sucho managed to bite down, that bite's gonna' be removed just as soon as it clamps down, thanks to the electrical shock, which is gonna' prevent Sucho from doing much of anything if he tries latching.
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 7, 2008 1:54:40 GMT -5
And what's stopping Syntrox from then say... A. Bringing his tail around and slamming its many spikes into Suchodon. Syntrox never once used his tail in the demo battle. I hope you realize that would cause Sucho's jaw muscles to violently contract, increasing his bite force to the point it would simply crush Syntrox's spine. See response to "A" and add in the fact that it'd be pretty much impossible for him to nail Sucho with it at that angle. Can Syntrox swing his head at supersonic speeds? No? Didn't think so. You'd have a point if Suchodon was like GFW Zilla and simply leapt head-on towards his opponents. Too bad he's not. |
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Post by Monster Master on Aug 7, 2008 2:26:15 GMT -5
LOL. And reading your demo battle again, Suchodon never once charged forward and randomly turned to the side. A matter of fact, he let Clover come up and attack him. I can play that game too, IR.
That might just be the case... If Syntrox didn't have big ass spikes lacing his back.
Not really. The shock killed Rodan in under a minute. Hell, biting Syntrox? In that angle? What's stopping Syntrox from just point blank kangaroo kicking him? Or just, once again, spitting a wad of goo? Suchodon's not a midget, the wad will hit him, be it his head, shoulders, or back.
Supersonic speeds? That's f'n laughable. A creature moving its head at that speed would break its own neck. Let alone, NOTHING in your demo battle shows that Suchodon can move that fast. The laser horn is gonna' rip Sucho apart before Sucho gets close enough to bite. Its longer, easy to use, and easy to move.
Yeah, instead he just stood there and let Clover attack him. I'd say that's an even dumber idea against Syntrox.
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 7, 2008 13:44:26 GMT -5
LOL. And reading your demo battle again, Suchodon never once charged forward and randomly turned to the side. A matter of fact, he let Clover come up and attack him. I can play that game too, IR. Suchodon almost always lets his opponent come to him first. The only time he didn't was against Dagahra and that was because he dove underwater immediately after attacking. And as for dodging attacks, he does it all the damn time. That's one of the things he's best at. There's more than one angle to grip a neck, MM. And there's a nice open area right behind Syntrox's head anyway. Or he'd just angle his head slightly so that the tip of the spike doesn't stab the roof of his mouth, so his bite pressure would snap off the spike anyway. Whichever. So Syntrox can kick both legs out perpendicular to his body without rearing up on his tail? Cause that's what he would have to do in order to hit Sucho with the Kangaroo Kick if Sucho was latched onto his neck, since rearing up would either cause Sucho to realize something's happening and thus immediately release his grip and back away, or simply tear a massive chunk of flesh out of his neck which would result in him bleeding to death in under a minute. If Suchodon is standing perpendicular to Syntrox and latched onto his neck directly behind the head, he'll barely even be able to rotate his head at all. Then there's the whole deal of the pressure of Sucho's bite forcing his windpipe closed and thus preventing him from being able to spit anyway. Megaguirus. Since you describe it like the Laser Horn, I'm going to assume it's of similar length. The range on it is nothing impressive at all. Add to that the fact that, again like Laser Horn which you describe it as being an electrical version of, it has to be charged up again after each swipe, so it's not like he's just going to be flailing around constantly in every direction. Stood there and let Clover attack him? Excuse me? If you're talking about when Clover first came out of the water, Sucho was making sure Zilla was good and dead before leaving him. He swatted Clover away with his tail once Clover got too close. Or if you're talking about when Clover swung his arm, Sucho was waiting for that. That's one of his main strategies: Let his opponent make a move, then avoid it and strike while they're open. And you're completely ignoring every one of Sucho's weapons except his jaws. If his jaws latch onto something, chances are his claws are going to come into play as well, be it to simply stab into his opponent to get a better grip or, in the more likely scenario against Syntrox due to him being considerably larger, simply rip and slash at whatever they can reach to open up massive wounds which will bleed profusely. And then there's his venom/anticoagulant. Anything he bites will not only bleed a hell of a lot, but it's also going to get much harder to move, assuming he doesn't break the bone supporting it anyway. |
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Post by Monster Master on Aug 7, 2008 14:09:15 GMT -5
And that's gonna' be a good way to fight Syntrox... how?
A matter of fact...
Syntrox's laser horn has greater reach than Suchodon also. How will this play out any different besides the attack decapitating Sucho?
Baragon's neck frills, while not meant to, will protect somewhat. Long enough for Syntrox to surge his electricity.
And both of those examples also give Syntrox another fine oppertunity to decapitate Sucho with the horn. And decapitation will kill Suchodon faster than bleeding will do to Syntrox.
Godzilla caught Megaguirus too. Guess he's supersonic.
The hell do you figure it has to be charged? And the hell do you figure it has a small range? It decapitated Anguirus, a kaiju about half as tall as Syntrox, when he was on the ground and he didn't even need to bend down all that much.
And yet the attack did strike. And in your own words, because Clover's reach was greater. So's Syntrox's. There's no reason to believe the same thing won't happen here, the only difference is Suchodon's gonna' be either headless, armless, or lower-bodyless.
And you're also forgetting about all of Syntrox's including the kick, acid goo, tail, gliding, jumping, venom, and his fire blast which was hot enough to make Kiryu's armor glow red and melt the exposed mechanics inside.
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Post by Omegarex24 on Aug 7, 2008 17:35:28 GMT -5
I swear, you two are going at it like cats.
At any rate, Syntrox does have some decided advantages over Suchodon, such as the Electric Laser Horn, not ot mention plenty of power on his side. But given the terrain, it's not gonna be that hard for Suchodon to play guerilla tactics and bite and run. Sooner or later, Syntrox is gonnaget woozy from a combination of blood loss and poison. And Syntrox can't make Sucho bleed to death, due to his ability to stop his bleeding with ease.
All Sucho really has to do is bite Syntrox a few times and hide out on the river bottom. Should Syntrox pursue, it's goodbye Syntrox, hello death roll.
Suchodon
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Post by destoroyah on Aug 7, 2008 21:40:59 GMT -5
I am gonna vote for Syntrox. Why? Mainly because of where they're fighting at. It's a rainforest, there's a crapload of trees and vegetation there. Syntrox can shoot a fire blast and light the forest on fire (although since it tends to rains alot, the fires might not last long). The fires might force Suchodon into the water, which will definitely put Sucho in a disadvantage because of Syntrox's electric laser horn. He could electrocute everything in the water, Sucho included.
Sucho would pretty much be forced into either staying in the flaming forest and fight Syntrox there, where both could perish by the flames or get electrocuted in the river. The only problem with that plan is that Syntrox could still get hurt by flames, but he could just jump into the water. He can absorb electricity, so he wouldn't have to worry about electrocuting himself in the river.
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