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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 11, 2008 2:06:44 GMT -5
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 11, 2008 2:55:18 GMT -5
Giga Bonga, at first glance, seems to have a fighting chance...
They neutralize each others venoms almost completely.
Both are highly proficient in flat out brawls.
But Scorpius has something that Giga Bonga can't deal with: Acid.
Another thing, Giga Bonga simply can't get through Scorpius' armor.
This is eventually gonna turn into T&C. Fact.
Giga Bonga is gonna have a hell of a hard time punching through Scorpius' armor. Fact.
Giga Bonga's gonna give Scorpius a run for his money in the durability department with both tough skin and regen. Fact. Moreso on Regen then skin.
Scorpius is gonna undo Giga Bonga with his acid. Fact.
Giga Bonga's temperature manipulation will cause problems for Scorpius. Debateable.
Regen or not, Giga Bonga's eventually gonna falter under that potent acid...
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Post by destoroyah on Aug 11, 2008 3:27:44 GMT -5
Well said, AG. But you did forget one thing. Giga has beams, Scorp doesn't (but he has acid). The match will probably start off as a T&C match but after a while, Giga would probably turn to his beams and temp manipulation towards beating Scorpius. Although Giga prefers physical combat but will resort to beams if he's in certain situations, this match being one of those situations. This is gonna be one hell of a fight either way. Giga will be seriously injured or dead but Scorpius will probably have a couple of limbs frozen solid in the process. I won't vote just yet, I want to discuss this match with IR first.
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 11, 2008 11:50:10 GMT -5
Eh, the problem with trying to keep away from Scorpius is just that: Trying to keep away from him. That's a difficult task unless you can either fly or escape into a large body of water. Now granted, the latter is possible to an extent given this arena, but even if Giga Bonga swims out into the middle of the Hudson River, he'll still be in range of Scorpius' acid. And if GB sits out there long enough just taking pot shots at him, Scorps is going to get annoyed and walk away from the shore.
That's assuming GB is even able to get away from Scorpius long enough to get to the water, of course. Which, again, isn't going to be an easy task. Scorps has claws. Strong claws. Strong claws that he likes to grab things with. And things he grabs with said claws more often than not come away crushed. He's also pretty fast too, and I kinda doubt Giga Bonga can outrun him in the event that GB does get away from him.
Now, GB's immunity to poisons will probably throw Scorps off a bit at first, cause he'll be stinging and injecting venom repeatedly and it won't be doing anything. After 5 or 6 stings fail to so much as slow GB down, though, he's going to figure out it's not working and he'll switch to acid. And god help GB when he gets a load of acid injected directly into his body.
Scorpius
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 11, 2008 14:08:20 GMT -5
Well said, AG. But you did forget one thing. Giga has beams, Scorp doesn't (but he has acid). Scorpius' armor will withstand that, as far as I'm concerned, so they are a non-factor. |
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Post by Monster Master on Aug 11, 2008 14:22:43 GMT -5
Scorps' armor will protect him from the beams, but I am curious about how well it can hold up against freeze beams. No mater though, the armor should protect him long enough until he uses the acid.
Scorpius.
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Post by yaburu on Aug 11, 2008 14:37:10 GMT -5
Now, GB's immunity to poisons will probably throw Scorps off a bit at first, cause he'll be stinging and injecting venom repeatedly and it won't be doing anything. After 5 or 6 stings fail to so much as slow GB down, though, he's going to figure out it's not working and he'll switch to acid. And god help GB when he gets a load of acid injected directly into his body. If you ask me, the first sting will be catastrophic for Scorps if he injects anything but acid. The moment that stinger goes into GB, he's going to bring his jaws down on it and bite the damn thing off. And if he looses his stinger, he looses his acid. After that, his entire offensive capabilities will be limited to his claws. And what if GB can get a hold of those? EDIT: After the arguments made by IR... Scorpius |
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 11, 2008 15:36:01 GMT -5
Now, GB's immunity to poisons will probably throw Scorps off a bit at first, cause he'll be stinging and injecting venom repeatedly and it won't be doing anything. After 5 or 6 stings fail to so much as slow GB down, though, he's going to figure out it's not working and he'll switch to acid. And god help GB when he gets a load of acid injected directly into his body. If you ask me, the first sting will be catastrophic for Scorps if he injects anything but acid. The moment that stinger goes into GB, he's going to bring his jaws down on it and bite the damn thing off. And if he looses his stinger, he looses his acid. After that, his entire offensive capabilities will be limited to his claws. And what if GB can get a hold of those? Giga Bonga...for now. I want to see what IR has to say. I'm fairly certain that the 'resist a nuclear warhead with little damage' armor extends to the tail and claws. Scorpius |
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 11, 2008 15:43:21 GMT -5
If you ask me, the first sting will be catastrophic for Scorps if he injects anything but acid. The moment that stinger goes into GB, he's going to bring his jaws down on it and bite the damn thing off. Keep in mind that Scorpius' tail is covered in the same armor that covers the rest of him, so it's not exactly going to be an easy task to bite it off. And ask Orochi how well trying to bite Scorp's tail ended for him... |
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Post by destoroyah on Aug 11, 2008 16:23:29 GMT -5
I can only think of a few ways Giga can beat Scorpius right now. They are:
a) If Giga can get Scorpius into the Hudson River and start heating up his body in the river, then he could boil Scorpius alive or he could try freezing the river and Scorpius with it. Giga can lift objects almost 3 times Scorpius' weight. So it's possible for Giga to toss Scorpius into the River (assuming Scorpius doesn't have his claws on Giga).
b) If Scorpius grabs ahold of Bonga, he could start changing his temp and try to freeze or burn Scorpius. It didn't take Giga long to freeze SMG when he had ahold of the cables or when he started burning GFW Goji's foot after he caught it. But then again, we don't know how well Scorpius can hold up to freezing attacks.
c) If Giga gets caught by Scorpius, he could try to bite down on Scorpius' head and try to crush it. It probably wouldn't work because of Scorpius' armor, but it should give him one hell of a headache.
d) Giga sticks his arm into Scorpius' mouth and tries burning or freezing the inside of Scorpius' head. He may be armored on the outside, but I doubt he is armored on the inside.
e) If (and this is a pretty big if) Giga can grab ahold of Scorp's tail, maybe try to stab Scorpius with his own tail, which should do some damage to Scorpius' armor. Giga caught Megaguirus' tail and redirected it straight at Megs, so I guess it could be possible. Could Scorpius' stinger pierce his own armor?
Giga is gonna be in a tough match and he's gonna have a tough time taking down Scorpius and he will be hurt badly, but I don't think he can do it. Vote: Scorpius
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 11, 2008 16:57:59 GMT -5
d) Giga sticks his arm into Scorpius' mouth and tries burning or freezing the inside of Scorpius' head. He may be armored on the outside, but I doubt he is armored on the inside. He's stupid if he's going to do that, 'cause he'll likely get his arm bitten off... or Scorpius could just clamp his claws over Bonga's arm and crush it that way. Either way, Bonga temporarily loses an arm. Not sure, but I don't think so. Plus, if Bonga focuses on the tail, those claws are going to ravage him badly, so he won't get the chance to see if the 'stinger through the monster's own armor' trick will work. |
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 11, 2008 17:40:29 GMT -5
a) If Giga can get Scorpius into the Hudson River and start heating up his body in the river, then he could boil Scorpius alive or he could try freezing the river and Scorpius with it. Giga can lift objects almost 3 times Scorpius' weight. So it's possible for Giga to toss Scorpius into the River (assuming Scorpius doesn't have his claws on Giga). The bold is where the problem lies. Scorpions are very flexible creatures, so it's very hard to grab them in a way where they can't get you with either their claws or tail. Only place I can think of is their underside, and given how low to the ground they are that's not a very easy place to get, especially for something tall like GB. As for boiling/freezing the water, there's a lot of water there. It's gonna take some time to change the temperature enough to do either. Boiling probably wouldn't work anyway, since water boils at 220 degrees, and the temperature at the heart of a nuke is in the hundreds of thousands of degrees, even if it's not for very long. Eh, it'll probably make him let go. But the thing is, Scorpius doesn't usually grab something for the sake of grabbing it. He's either going to crush it immediately, or he's holding the opponent still for a second while his stinger thrusts forward. Err... the angles won't really work for that, unless GB is crawling around on his belly. Scorps' mouth is too small to really stick anything into in the first place, and there's a pair of small claws in front of it anyway. Not the armor itself, but it could potentially go between his armor plates if the angle was right. Don't really see what good that would do though, since the stinger is way too small to really do any damage on its own. Meh, he won't like them due to the fact that he's cold-blooded, but they won't really be any more effective on him than they would any other kaiju. Really, his exoskeleton would protect him from any direct damage that the ice would normally cause to skin. |
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Post by destoroyah on Aug 12, 2008 0:42:05 GMT -5
Well, it looks like Giga pretty much has no chance at beating Scorpius, he'll probably annoy him for a while with his freezing attacks but eventually Scorpius will use his acid on Giga and it'll be game over. Ah well, I am kinda proud of Giga since he was my only kaiju in this tourney and he made it past the first round. He did alot better than what I thought he would. Maybe it's a good thing that Giga would lose in this match because if he won then chances are that he would probably end up facing somebody like Jericho or Psychosis.
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Post by THE GODZILLA on Aug 16, 2008 18:06:19 GMT -5
Scorpius.
The acid really puts this in his favor due to it being a ranged attack and being so deadly. The toxins have no importance due to each being immune to the other's. Giga Bonga will put up a pretty good fight, but in the end, I see Scorpius winning.
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