KOTA: Evangelion Unit 01 vs. Darktide Mk. II

[Monster Master]

Evangelion Unit 01

vs.

Darktide Mk. II

Arena: Paris, France

[Omegarex24]

Darktide takes this with relative ease. Eva may be able to runa nd jump and all that jazz,plus he has the AT Field. But let's be honest here. Running and jumping won't let him get someone like Darktide. Darktide flies and has maneuverability comparable to an AC Gundam, despite his bulk. Even with those rockets, their usefullness is limited.

The AT Field only protects from the front, and it only mentions being able ot stop all matter, such as the Impact Cannons or the Ion Linear Cannon, but Darktide has other weaponry at hsi disposal. His cloaking is alos useful for getting behind an Eva and nailing it with the Impact Cannons.

Those handguns are his only real ranged weapons, and I doubt they can do much to Darktide either, plus, Darktide has his own shield to block ranged projectiles with.

Berserker Eva may prove a challenge, but Darktide can still take this with relative ease.

[HyperGFreak]

The notion of Eva taking Darktide on range is...not likely, but I have questions about the effectiveness of the Prog knife on his armor. That could probably get through the armor. And damn, Evas are fast and strong...and of course, with beams and all that jazz, all ya need to do is shake the Eva up a bit to make Shinji have a spasm. Next thing you know, the Eva has regen, meaning that it's going to be pretty hard for Darktide to do too much...

Abstain until further arguments are thrown in.

[THE GODZILLA]

Oh yes, once again I fall behind because I can't defend my f*cking monster.

Omega, I'm just gonna say this right now. You're HIGHLY underestimating Unit 01.

omegarex24 said:

Darktide takes this with relative ease. Eva may be able to runa nd jump and all that jazz,plus he has the AT Field. But let's be honest here. Running and jumping won't let him get someone like Darktide. Darktide flies and has maneuverability comparable to an AC Gundam, despite his bulk. Even with those rockets, their usefullness is limited.

Umm, what? You may be faster in the air, but on land, Unit 01 outclasses him.

The AT Field only protects from the front, and it only mentions being able ot stop all matter, such as the Impact Cannons or the Ion Linear Cannon, but Darktide has other weaponry at hsi disposal. His cloaking is alos useful for getting behind an Eva and nailing it with the Impact Cannons.

And Unit 01 didn't notice Barugon when he was camou'ed too. Oh wait, he did...

BTW, the AT Field is gonna be able to block ALL your attacks. Not to mention it's gonna be thrown up a lot.

Those handguns are his only real ranged weapons, and I doubt they can do much to Darktide either, plus, Darktide has his own shield to block ranged projectiles with.

Shinji will realize this and go hand to hand with Darktide, something that Unit 01 has an advantage in. That progressive knife is gonna tear into Darktide's armor very easily.

Berserker Eva may prove a challenge, but Darktide can still take this with relative ease.

Get your head out of your ass and stop treating your creations like Gods.

Berserker Eva is gonna be a BITCH to Darktide, and it's probably gonna come at some point in the battle.

Now then, I'm having a hard time deciding a winner. Darktide has a ranged advantage, while Unit 01 has a melee advantage. Hyper brings up another point. You knock out Shinji and Unit 01 gets regeneration and a boost in power.

[HyperGFreak]

Well, then...if the Prog really can penetrate Darktide, then I'll go with the Eva. Unless Darktide somehow manages to use his guns to blow Eva's head right friggin' off or something, then there's always Berserker mode showing up before the Eva goes out of commission. After that, regeneration's gonna give Darktide hell...

[Omegarex24]

Fat chance of that Prg Knife ever coming into play, or even harming Darktide. Darktide's armor reduces the power of such weaponry by almost half, meaning it'll do a whole lot less than usual.

And I doubt the Eva can run at Mach 3. Given his lack of apparent ranged weaponry, aside from the guns, Darktide's going to stick to the air and rain death down upon the competition. And he can compete with Eva in terms of strength as well, seeing as how he shattered MG2's NT-20 sheath with a single punch. The Plasma Cutter sands to lop off limbs, and even with regeneration, Eva's still gonna be hard pressed to keep up with that. The Harmonics Disruptor can do all kinds of damages, and even kill Shinji without much effort, and since he has to activate his AT Field manually, so to speak, projectiles traveling at Mach 40, or near light speeds, are probably faster than Eva's reaction times.

So I still fail to see what Eva's gonna do against an airborne opponent like Darktide. A highly manueverable airborne opponent I might add.

[THE GODZILLA]

Fat chance of that Prg Knife ever coming into play, or even harming Darktide. Darktide's armor reduces the power of such weaponry by almost half, meaning it'll do a whole lot less than usual.

That's why your armor is weak to attacks that pierce through it, right?

And I doubt the Eva can run at Mach 3. Given his lack of apparent ranged weaponry, aside from the guns, Darktide's going to stick to the air and rain death down upon the competition.

Unit 01 will just block all the attacks with the AT Field. Eventually, Darktide is going to get in close, and Unit 01 is going to catch him.

And he can compete with Eva in terms of strength as well, seeing as how he shattered MG2's NT-20 sheath with a single punch.

Unit 01 can punch straight through MG2's body with a single punch. Darktide has no strength bonuses in his powers. He's not even with Unit 01. At all.

The Plasma Cutter sands to lop off limbs, and even with regeneration, Eva's still gonna be hard pressed to keep up with that.

The Progressive Knife can slice off a limb of your's too. Or Unit 01 can just snap Darktide's arm off.

The Harmonics Disruptor can do all kinds of damages, and even kill Shinji without much effort, and since he has to activate his AT Field manually, so to speak, projectiles traveling at Mach 40, or near light speeds, are probably faster than Eva's reaction times.

You forget that 5 second charge time? Shinji will throw it up as its charging.

But I'll humor you. Let's say Unit 01 gets hit and Shinji dies. Alrighty, you've just put Unit 01 into Berserker Mode. Not good.

So I still fail to see what Eva's gonna do against an airborne opponent like Darktide. A highly manueverable airborne opponent I might add.

Yes, because Darktide hasn't charged into melee combat before, right? In fact, Darktide was near the ground almost the entire time in your Demonstration Battle and was in jumping range quite often...

[Omegarex24]

That's why your armor is weak to attacks that pierce through it, right?

If you stabbed him first, then the initial striek would penetrate, yes, but attempting to carve Darktide's armor like that would have a severely lessened effect. And just stabbing him with the Prog Knife is in no way going to do significant enough damage to put Darktide down.

Unit 01 will just block all the attacks with the AT Field. Eventually, Darktide is going to get in close, and Unit 01 is going to catch him.

Yeah, no. You remember those Kamacuras? Darktide blasted all three of them into oblivion without doing more than swiveling to aim the gun, and he did it all before they could even react. The Ion Linear Cannon fires at near light speeds. The odds of Eva erecting an AT Field that quickly are slim to none.

And Darktide's not going to close if he can hurt him from a range where his foe cannot engage. Some of those shots will get through, if not the majority of them.

Unit 01 can punch straight through MG2's body with a single punch. Darktide has no strength bonuses in his powers. He's not even with Unit 01. At all.

I said he could compete, not beat. Eva trumps him in strength, yes, but Darktide could hold his own for awhile.

You forget that 5 second charge time? Shinji will throw it up as its charging.

But I'll humor you. Let's say Unit 01 gets hit and Shinji dies. Alrighty, you've just put Unit 01 into Berserker Mode. Not good.

The Harmonics Disruptor uses sound waves. I doubt the AT Field blocks sound waves.

And so what if Eva goes berserker? Regeneration can only take you so far, and Darktide has the smarts and firepower to keep him wounded and finish him off.

Yes, because Darktide hasn't charged into melee combat before, right? In fact, Darktide was near the ground almost the entire time in your Demonstration Battle and was in jumping range quite often...

Kamacuras- didn't need to fly because he blew them away in the opening three seconds of combat.

Gabara- Flew to avoid melee combat, before decapitatin ghim in a single flyby.

Anguirus- Flew ot avoid melee combat and finished off with ranged weapons.

Super Mechagodzilla- Fought in melee to conserve ammo with the Impact Cannons, and because SMG couldn't touch him with any of his weaponry. Finished off with Ion Linear Cannon from a range.

Mothra/Battra- Engaged in an aerial battle

Megaguirurs- Engaged in an aerial battle

Deathscythe- Engaged in a varying air/ground battle at close range, as the DS pressed in, preventing Darktide from brining his guns to bear.

Darktide fought mostly from the air, especially against grounded melee capable monsters. He fights fromt he air alot because it allows him full access to his speed and maneuvering capabilities.

And so what if he stays in jumping range? If Eva hits him once with that Prog Kinfe, it's not going to be enough to finish him off, and Darktide's going to quickly figure out that he needs to keep farther away. And I'm fairly certain that Darktide can fly faster than Eva can run, meaning he can easily keep that distance.

[THE GODZILLA]

If you stabbed him first, then the initial striek would penetrate, yes, but attempting to carve Darktide's armor like that would have a severely lessened effect. And just stabbing him with the Prog Knife is in no way going to do significant enough damage to put Darktide down.

Alrighty then, Unit 01 will just shove the polearm into Darktide's head.

Yeah, no. You remember those Kamacuras? Darktide blasted all three of them into oblivion without doing more than swiveling to aim the gun, and he did it all before they could even react. The Ion Linear Cannon fires at near light speeds. The odds of Eva erecting an AT Field that quickly are slim to none.

Once again, you ignore charge time. Shinji will see this and pop his AT Field up. Unit 01 is much more durable then those Kamacuras too.

And Darktide's not going to close if he can hurt him from a range where his foe cannot engage. Some of those shots will get through, if not the majority of them.

Darktide has shown to get up close and dirty with melee monsters, even if a brief encounter. Unit 01 is going to catch him there and put Darktide in a world of pain.

I said he could compete, not beat. Eva trumps him in strength, yes, but Darktide could hold his own for awhile.

Umm, no. Eva is going to overpower Darktide. While not super quick, it isn't going to take "awhile".

The Harmonics Disruptor uses sound waves. I doubt the AT Field blocks sound waves.

It will block it.

And so what if Eva goes berserker? Regeneration can only take you so far, and Darktide has the smarts and firepower to keep him wounded and finish him off.

So what? Dear lord, if Unit 01 got into melee with Darktide in berserker, he'd tear him apart. Literally.

Gabara- Flew to avoid melee combat, before decapitatin ghim in a single flyby.

Unit 01 will snatch you right out of the sky if you got that close.

Darktide fought mostly from the air, especially against grounded melee capable monsters. He fights fromt he air alot because it allows him full access to his speed and maneuvering capabilities.

And he's gonna have to pull off something other than ranged attacks if he plans on getting through the AT Field.

And so what if he stays in jumping range? If Eva hits him once with that Prog Kinfe, it's not going to be enough to finish him off, and Darktide's going to quickly figure out that he needs to keep farther away. And I'm fairly certain that Darktide can fly faster than Eva can run, meaning he can easily keep that distance.

What's stopping Unit 01 from tearing apart those boosters?

BTW, you may have me outclassed in ranged weapons that can do damage, but it doesn't mean Unit 01's weapons are useless. Pistol shots killed Baragon, while Sub Machine Gun fire brought down Gyaos by the dozen.

[Inferno Rodan]

baragon1313 said:

What's stopping Unit 01 from tearing apart those boosters?

The fact that they're, like, imbedded in Darktide's body, for one...

[THE GODZILLA]

admin said:

baragon1313 said:

What's stopping Unit 01 from tearing apart those boosters?

The fact that they're, like, imbedded in Darktide's body, for one...

I stand corrected. He'll shove his progressive knife into them and rip them to shreds.

Now then, this debate can probably go on forever. If Darktide stays at range, he's probably gonna win. If he gets close, Unit 01 has the chance to win. Boy, we're getting far with that...

[Omegarex24]

The Prog Knife isn't the end all, be all of weapons, and Darktide's Plasma Cutter sorely outclasses it in terms of attack range.

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^Granted that's Riptide, but considering that he and Darktide are the same height, with the same placement of limbs, it's accurate enough.

Eva's not even going to be able to get in close before Darktide slices off the arm wielding the Prog Knife, of decapitates Eva. And then there's always Darktide's own shields to consider. They can block the Prog knife and the handgun/SMG shells, and most any attack that Eva throws at him.

And in order to rip the engines out with the Prog Knife, Eva would have to hit Darktide int he back, since the only engines he has on his front are a pair in the hips he uses to get himself up off the ground if he gets knocked over.

Other than those two, he has 14 additional main boosters (4 in the back, two in the shoulders, near the shoulder blade area, two on each thigh and calf), plus a few smaller boosters in the armor over the feet to allow for additional maneuvering capabilities. Ripping them all out before Darktide does some serious damage is not likely, or even probable.

[THE GODZILLA]

The Prog Knife isn't the end all, be all of weapons, and Darktide's Plasma Cutter sorely outclasses it in terms of attack range.

Attack range will be the only issue with that thing. The progressive knife can block blades, so there's a chance (this could happen to either of us) that one is gonna get caught in the other.

Eva's not even going to be able to get in close before Darktide slices off the arm wielding the Prog Knife, of decapitates Eva. And then there's always Darktide's own shields to consider. They can block the Prog knife and the handgun/SMG shells, and most any attack that Eva throws at him.

And if Eva snaps Darktide's hand to make it useless?

Ok, so we've got two fighters, both with very hard to pierce shields. We'll sit there talking about hot chicks as all our attacks impact the shields and nothing happens.

And in order to rip the engines out with the Prog Knife, Eva would have to hit Darktide int he back, since the only engines he has on his front are a pair in the hips he uses to get himself up off the ground if he gets knocked over.

So if I get those, will I cripple Darktide's movement and maneuverability?

Other than those two, he has 14 additional main boosters (4 in the back, two in the shoulders, near the shoulder blade area, two on each thigh and calf), plus a few smaller boosters in the armor over the feet to allow for additional maneuvering capabilities. Ripping them all out before Darktide does some serious damage is not likely, or even probable.

I never said Unit 01 would rip them all out. The goal is to cripple your movement and make it easier to get you.

BTW, I see no mentioning of them in the shoulders.

[Omegarex24]

And if Eva snaps Darktide's hand to make it useless?

Ok, so we've got two fighters, both with very hard to pierce shields. We'll sit there talking about hot chicks as all our attacks impact the shields and nothing happens.

The issue is getting to Darktide's hands, and he doesn't use hsi hands that much, just the weaponry attached to the wrist/arm, which is firmly attached, so you'd have to tear the whole arm off to get any results on that field.

All I'm saying about the shields is that they'll protect Darktide from ranged assaults. Those SMGs run out of ammo eventually. In the unlikely event Darktide decides to melee Eva, he could only use one shield at a time effectively, as the other arm would be used in fighting back.

So if I get those, will I cripple Darktide's movement and maneuverability?

The engines in the front are only for getting him back up if he falls over, and maybe a little for maneuvering purposes. They might hinder his flight some, and he risks taking some damage by trying to get back up without them, but they won't hamper him much.

I never said Unit 01 would rip them all out. The goal is to cripple your movement and make it easier to get you.

BTW, I see no mentioning of them in the shoulders.

Thet aren't on the shoulders where the cannons rest, but rather near the shoulder blade. Picture, if you will, 4 engines on your back, between where your shoulder blades meet. Then, over the shoulder blades themselves, are two more engines, although they'd be covered up by the wings partially, limiting how well you could get to them. On the back of each thigh, there's another pair, and another pair on the back of your calf muscles, plus the smaller ones in the armor over the feet. Taking them out would hinder his speed and mobility, but the ssue of getting to them still remains.

[THE GODZILLA]

Hmm, they're that hard to get eh?

Alrighty, I think Darktide is gonna pull it off. But it isn't going to be relatively easy like you said Omega.