The First: Rygama X Scorpius

[Bio]

Sounds like an actual movie, doesn't it?

Well, since no one else feels like it, I'll bring the first of the Arena Fantasy Matches into play.

Before anyone say anything, I haven't seriously clashed with IR in a while now. I just thought Scorpius holding Ry's weakness would make the battle interesting.

Queen Rygama - tkarena.proboards81.com/index.cgi?board=stats&action=display&thread=1169840538

Sample - tkarena.proboards81.com/index.cgi?board=demo&action=display&thread=1175295855

Scorpius - tkarena.proboards81.com/index.cgi?board=stats&action=display&thread=1169176323

Sample - tkarena.proboards81.com/index.cgi?board=demo&action=display&thread=1175318555

Arena: Nevada Desert, just outside Las Vegas

This one takes some thought from me. Scorpius' pincers pack mad power, and with that venom, he's undeniably going to maim Rygama in this skirmish, but at the same time, Rygama could quickly do the same to Scorpius, what with the fluid nature of her breath weapon, not to mention her brute strength both taking advantage of the gaps in Scorpius' armor.
If Scorpius can get multiple stings in major sections of Rygama's body, he can disable her, but Rygama's not one to let the same weapon hurt her twice, and it probably wouldn't be long before Scorpius found his stinger ripped off. Let's not forget that once Rygama removes Scorpius' claws and stinger, he's completely harmless to her, While Rygama would have to lose a wing in order for it to turn truly ugly for her, and she has those downright nasteh arms between Scorps and her wings.

Naturally I'm thinking Rygama, but that's partially because I know her best.

[Inferno Rodan]

Scorpius likes to use his acid, and that stuff is gonna wreak havoc on Rygama, especially considering she doesn't dodge much. One hit from it, and she's gonna be hurting bad, regardless of whether or not she chooses to feel it.

So yeah, Scorpius FTW.

[Bio]

It's not about feeling, it's about actual damage. Rygama is Jason Vorheese with wings(And an actual sense of compassion, but mainly wings here). Just because it eats a hole in her body doesn't mean it's going to slow her down.
Also, Rygama didn't dodge Spacegodzilla's corona beam because it didn't hurt her. Once she encountered an actual threat(the wasps, which she knew could seriously injure her), she made every effort to dodge or parry. Note how she took to the sky and tried to evade. Yes, she failed, but these things are essentially the same as GTS' Queen Bee, they're pretty agile.

Rygama may take a few hits from the acid, but once she does, she's going to be dodging. Also, that superheated water blast is going to wreak just as much havoc on Scorpius as his acid is going to on her. It may not be as powerful, but Scorpius' lack of damage reduction makes up for that.
Scorpius' acid is going to be a potent offense for him, but it sure aint gonna save him. Especially considering he might not get to use it for the entire fight...

[Inferno Rodan]

bio said:

Just because it eats a hole in her body doesn't mean it's going to slow her down.

It sure as hell will if it eats completely through her leg, or, should she be unlucky enough to take a hit to the face, melt her head clean off.

Pain is only part of being crippled by an attack. If the muscles to move the appendage are no longer there, it's not going to move. Period.

Rygama may take a few hits from the acid, but once she does, she's going to be dodging.

Considering a couple hits is all it'll take to royally screw her...

This isn't some wimpy Biollante acid here. Scorpius' acid makes Bio's look like vinegar.

[Bio]

It sure as hell will if it eats completely through her leg, or, should she be unlucky enough to take a hit to the face, melt her head clean off.

Only wimps depend on heads.

Pain is only part of being crippled by an attack. If the muscles to move the appendage are no longer there, it's not going to move. Period.

If Rygama was some scrawny, wirey, insectlike little gnat, that might be an issue.
It just so happens, however, that Rygama has more mass than TWO Destroyahs compacted together. She is like a walking lead weight. Burning through all that compacted muscle is going to take more than two shots. I don't care if that stuff did completely eat out Megalon's face, by the time he fires enough shots to actually do some real damage, Rygama'll have bitten his stinger off.

Considering a couple hits is all it'll take to royally screw her...

Oh please, it'll slow her down, and that's a worst case scenario for her. Trying to Destroy Rygama is like trying to destroy a hypercompressed Biollante. There is a LOT of mass - much of it armor plated or ungodly thick - to destroy before you actually hurt her.

This isn't some wimpy Biollante acid here. Scorpius' acid makes Bio's look like vinegar.

And this isn't some wimpy Seesar style brawler, Rygama's muscle makes Heisei Godzilla look like an anorexic schoolgirl.

[Inferno Rodan]

bio said:

Only wimps depend on heads.

So you both admit that Rygama is boned if she takes a hit to the face and you're calling her a wimp.

If Rygama was some scrawny, wirey, insectlike little gnat, that might be an issue.
It just so happens, however, that Rygama has more mass than TWO Destroyahs compacted together. She is like a walking lead weight. Burning through all that compacted muscle is going to take more than two shots. I don't care if that stuff did completely eat out Megalon's face, by the time he fires enough shots to actually do some real damage, Rygama'll have bitten his stinger off.

Uh-huh. Now you're forgetting about Scorpius' other weapons. If he catches any part of Rygama's body in one of his claws, it's as good as useless from then on, because it'll either be crushed beyond recognition or just plain ripped off. And then there's that nasty venom of his. Even you admit that that will wreak havoc on her.

Oh please, it'll slow her down, and that's a worst case scenario for her. Trying to Destroy Rygama is like trying to destroy a hypercompressed Biollante. There is a LOT of mass - much of it armor plated or ungodly thick - to destroy before you actually hurt her.

-points to her face-

And I'm sure she'd love fighting with a good portion of her innards dissolved thanks to taking a hit to her abdomen.

And this isn't some wimpy Seesar style brawler, Rygama's muscle makes Heisei Godzilla look like an anorexic schoolgirl.

So does Scorpius'.

[Bio]

So you both admit that Rygama is boned if she takes a hit to the face and you're calling her a wimp.

Actually I'm responding to your comment about her losing her head in a manner that was intended to be humorous. Apparently I failed.

Actually, I disagree that Rygama would lose her head to the acid on the grounds that Megalon didn't. Only the front portion of his face was dissolved. Rygama's head is specifically designed to slam into opponents at mach speeds(something she does on more than one occasion in her stories), I seriously doubt that acid's going to have an easy time eating through it.

Also, the point of the joke was to point out that Rygama doesn't need a head to fight. Her brain can divert its information to the rest of her body in a heartbeat.

Uh-huh. Now you're forgetting about Scorpius' other weapons. If he catches any part of Rygama's body in one of his claws, it's as good as useless from then on, because it'll either be crushed beyond recognition or just plain ripped off

I doubt that. Scorpius' claws strike me as similar to Wendigo's in terms of crushing\cutting ability. Rygama's dealt with it before. Know how? By shrugging it off and breaking Wendigo's arms again and again. The only limb Wendigo succeded in totally disabling was one of her wings.
Crushing Megalon's drill is impressive, but Rygama's limbs are something else. When Scorpius pushes on them, they push back with equal strength. Oh yeah, he'll damage them, he may even destroy one if he gets a good hold on, but it's not going to save him because once Rygama destroys that stinger, she's only got one thing to worry about, and if it gets too nasty for her, she could easily take to the skies and just bombard him until he melts.

Did I mention the possibility of Rygama attacking from behind, away from the pincers, grabbing his tail and cracking him open against a rock? He has no rear-mounted weaponry, he's all forward.

And then there's that nasty venom of his. Even you admit that that will wreak havoc on her.

For as long as it functions, of course. You're neglecting Rygama's own offense. I see her stepping right onto Scorpius' head, grabbing the tail and wrenching the last segment off in her teeth, or just crushing the stinger itself. Ry isn't Orochi, if she catches that thing, it's coming off.

Oh heck, what's to stop her from just jabbing her claws into the bug's brain and killing it?

-points to her face-

And I'm sure she'd love fighting with a good portion of her innards dissolved thanks to taking a hit to her abdomen.

She wouldn't like it, but she'd do it just the same.

So does Scorpius'.

I highly doubt Scorpius' strength compares to Rygama's. At her natural size of 42 meters, she succeded in heaving a 300,000 ton aircraft carrier over her head and hurling it a good distance. Scale that up.

[Inferno Rodan]

bio said:

Actually, I disagree that Rygama would lose her head to the acid on the grounds that Megalon didn't. Only the front portion of his face was dissolved. Rygama's head is specifically designed to slam into opponents at mach speeds(something she does on more than one occasion in her stories), I seriously doubt that acid's going to have an easy time eating through it.

This isn't a concentrated beam that only hits one small area. It's a stream of liquid that will cover her entire head if it hits. So, at the very least, her eyes will be gone.

Also, the point of the joke was to point out that Rygama doesn't need a head to fight. Her brain can divert its information to the rest of her body in a heartbeat.

Fat lot of good that'll do when she can't see, hear, or smell.

I doubt that. Scorpius' claws strike me as similar to Wendigo's in terms of crushing\cutting ability. Rygama's dealt with it before. Know how? By shrugging it off and breaking Wendigo's arms again and again. The only limb Wendigo succeded in totally disabling was one of her wings.

That doesn't really tell me anything, since I have no idea who Wendigo is.

Crushing Megalon's drill is impressive, but Rygama's limbs are something else. When Scorpius pushes on them, they push back with equal strength. Oh yeah, he'll damage them, he may even destroy one if he gets a good hold on, but it's not going to save him because once Rygama destroys that stinger, she's only got one thing to worry about,

You're assuming he'll grab hold of something meaty. There's no hope for her if he grabs hold of her head.

and if it gets too nasty for her, she could easily take to the skies and just bombard him until he melts.

She has a very limited supply of that uber-water. Scorpius, for all intents and purposes, has an unlimited supply of acid. Do the math.

Did I mention the possibility of Rygama attacking from behind, away from the pincers, grabbing his tail and cracking him open against a rock? He has no rear-mounted weaponry, he's all forward.

...You're suggesting that she'll be able to sneak up behind a creature that can feel the slightest vibration both in the air and in the ground?

For as long as it functions, of course. You're neglecting Rygama's own offense. I see her stepping right onto Scorpius' head, grabbing the tail and wrenching the last segment off in her teeth, or just crushing the stinger itself. Ry isn't Orochi, if she catches that thing, it's coming off.

'Course, if she bites it, she'll quickly get a jet of acid down her throat...

And, as it says in her bio, hemotoxin is especially bad for her. Guess what Scorpius has? -gasp!- Very potent hemotoxin! He stings her shoulder, her arm blows off. He stings her thigh, her leg blows off. He stings her neck, her head blows off. He stings her abdomen, she blows apart in any number of nasty ways.

Oh heck, what's to stop her from just jabbing her claws into the bug's brain and killing it?

His obnoxiously tough armor, duh. I realize I haven't written it up yet, but I will eventually have battles between NSG, BF, Giga, and Scorpius. In the final of these matches, in which all 4 of them are fighting, a nuke will be detonated in the middle of them. Both Giga and Scorpius will emerge essentially unscathed by virtue of their armor (NSG and BF will do the same, albeit through the use of their shields).

She wouldn't like it, but she'd do it just the same.

Kinda hard to function without a heart...

I highly doubt Scorpius' strength compares to Rygama's. At her natural size of 42 meters, she succeded in heaving a 300,000 ton aircraft carrier over her head and hurling it a good distance. Scale that up.

And Scorpius crushed a solid hunk of material that's capable of handling the stresses of ripping though the earth at mach 3 as easily as he would a soda can. He may not be able to throw things around as well as Rygama (primarily because he's not really built to do so), but he'd be more than capable of tearing apart SG in a fraction the time it took her to.

[Bio]

This isn't a concentrated beam that only hits one small area. It's a stream of liquid that will cover her entire head if it hits. So, at the very least, her eyes will be gone.

You are SERIOUSLY underestimating Rygama's material toughness. A blast of the stuff hit Megalon's head and part of it remained when he was done. Rygama's head > Megalon's head.

Fat lot of good that'll do when she can't see, hear, or smell.

Again, one or two jets of acid are NOT going to totally disable her senses. The entity that composes her brain spends most of its life independant, it has its own set of senses. Rygama's BRAIN sees, her NERVOUS SYSTEM sees.

That doesn't really tell me anything, since I have no idea who Wendigo is.

Read Ry's bio at KG, covers everything.
Wendigo has Scorpius-like claws, and he's a LOT more flexible than the bug.

You're assuming he'll grab hold of something meaty. There's no hope for her if he grabs hold of her head.

If he grabs ahold of her head, he'll tick her off, just like he will if he grabs ahold of anything else. Nothing more. She doesn't NEED, a head, she doesn't NEED a heart, she doesn't NEED lungs, a stomach, intestines, a liver or even blood. She has them to sustain her body. Short term loss of these organs isn't going to hamper her in the least.
In the unlikely event he can grab ahold of her head without her grabbing his claw and ripping it off, what then? She can still see him, she can still beat the crap out of him, she can still stab him, pick him up and toss him halfway accross Nevada, she can still carry him into the trophosphere and drop him... All it's doing is eliminating her grotesquely strong jaws.

She has a very limited supply of that uber-water. Scorpius, for all intents and purposes, has an unlimited supply of acid. Do the math.

Doesn't matter. She can fire three overwhelmingly massive shots of the stuff, and each one will be seeping between the gaps on Scorp's armor. If you'll recall, it cut one of the hornets in two. I reiterate, the hornets = Queen Bee minus the projectile stingers. In other words, they can survive being bathed in lava.

'Course, if she bites it, she'll quickly get a jet of acid down her throat...

No, if Orochi bites, he'll get a jet of acid down his throat. But Scorps isn't fighting Orochi, he's fighting something infinitely scarier. Scorp's stinger'll be gone before he gets the chance.

Oh, and her esophagus is kindof... you know... immune to extreme temperatures or corrosives...

...You're suggesting that she'll be able to sneak up behind a creature that can feel the slightest vibration both in the air and in the ground?

Sneak? I'm talking about swooping behind and grabbing him before he gets a chance to react. He tries to bend over and grab her ankles, he loses his leverage and gives Rygama the advantage.

And, as it says in her bio, hemotoxin is especially bad for her. Guess what Scorpius has? -gasp!- Very potent hemotoxin! He stings her shoulder, her arm blows off. He stings her thigh, her leg blows off. He stings her neck, her head blows off. He stings her abdomen, she blows apart in any number of nasty ways.

Assuming he gets a chance to use it that many times...
















...He won't...

His obnoxiously tough armor, duh. I realize I haven't written it up yet, but I will eventually have battles between NSG, BF, Giga, and Scorpius. In the final of these matches, in which all 4 of them are fighting, a nuke will be detonated in the middle of them. Both Giga and Scorpius will emerge essentially unscathed by virtue of their armor (NSG and BF will do the same, albeit through the use of their shields).

Impressive.

Course Rygama's talons are more or less a no-limits falacy. They can stab through literally anything. The only thing keeping her from hacking off limbs with them is her lack of leverage in that position. Heck, if Spacegodzilla were built low to the ground, she'd have just stabbed his brain and been done with it. Of course her sheer strength dictates that if she tried that with a biped, she'd be more likely to send them flying than make that kind of penetration.

Scorpius is very different.

Heck, she could easily just peel his armor off.

Kinda hard to function without a heart...

-snorts- For you maybe.

And Scorpius crushed a solid hunk of material that's capable of handling the stresses of ripping though the earth at mach 3 as easily as he would a soda can. He may not be able to throw things around as well as Rygama (primarily because he's not really built to do so),

His claws are strong, but the way he's built gives him incredibly little leverage. That puts him at a distinct disadvantage against this opponent. He tries to grab onto her, he'll get his pedipalps stomped into the ground.

but he'd be more than capable of tearing apart SG in a fraction the time it took her to.

No duh, Rygama could've gotten away with throwing pies in SG's face if she wanted to... She didn't see him as a threat so she didn't exert herself in killing him.

The gist of it is, that while Scorpius has three excellent offensive weapons, he's going up against something larger, stronger and more intelligent than anything he's ever been able to. Tearing it apart won't work here unless he does so completely, and it's going to be tearing him apart right back all the while.

[Inferno Rodan]

bio said:

You are SERIOUSLY underestimating Rygama's material toughness. A blast of the stuff hit Megalon's head and part of it remained when he was done. Rygama's head > Megalon's head.

Correction: Part of Megalon's head remained when Scorpius roared in triumph. Acid has this nasty little habit of continuing to work for some time after it contacts something.

Again, one or two jets of acid are NOT going to totally disable her senses. The entity that composes her brain spends most of its life independant, it has its own set of senses. Rygama's BRAIN sees, her NERVOUS SYSTEM sees.

You can't see, hear, or smell without eyes, ears, and a nose. The entity can still be there all it wants, but if it doesn't have the organs through which to detect stimuli, it can't detect them.

If he grabs ahold of her head, he'll tick her off, just like he will if he grabs ahold of anything else. Nothing more. She doesn't NEED, a head, she doesn't NEED a heart, she doesn't NEED lungs, a stomach, intestines, a liver or even blood. She has them to sustain her body. Short term loss of these organs isn't going to hamper her in the least.

How the hell are her muscles going to function without a blood supply to keep them nourished?

In the unlikely event he can grab ahold of her head without her grabbing his claw and ripping it off, what then? She can still see him, she can still beat the crap out of him, she can still stab him, pick him up and toss him halfway accross Nevada, she can still carry him into the trophosphere and drop him... All it's doing is eliminating her grotesquely strong jaws.

The tossing and dropping really won't do much to him, but whatever.

And there's still no way she can see without eyes.

Doesn't matter. She can fire three overwhelmingly massive shots of the stuff, and each one will be seeping between the gaps on Scorp's armor.

It's superheated, radioactive water. Scorpius is immune to radiation, including when it's utilized in attacks. So that leaves it as superheated water which, if it's so incredibly hot, will evaporate almost instantly.

If you'll recall, it cut one of the hornets in two. I reiterate, the hornets = Queen Bee minus the projectile stingers. In other words, they can survive being bathed in lava.

Whoop-dee-doo. Scorpius' acid would've reduced them to a puddle of goo. What's your point?

No, if Orochi bites, he'll get a jet of acid down his throat. But Scorps isn't fighting Orochi, he's fighting something infinitely scarier. Scorp's stinger'll be gone before he gets the chance.

Funny, but I didn't see any displays of exceptional jaw strength on her part in the demo battle.

And don't try that "Super strength is listed in her powers" stuff. Lifting things with your arms and legs has nothing to do with jaw power. And if you want me to get technical, it says in her bio that her "skull and spine are both parts of her body where the bone and exoskeleton have merged into much thicker, tougher plates." That leaves very little room for muscles.

Oh, and her esophagus is kindof... you know... immune to extreme temperatures or corrosives...

First of all, acid isn't hot. Secondly, hot, radioactive water isn't corrosive. So yeah, Scorpius' acid will work just fine.

Sneak? I'm talking about swooping behind and grabbing him before he gets a chance to react. He tires to bend over and grab her ankles, he loses his leverage and gives Rygama the advantage.

He was able to keep Megs in his sights well enough, and considering Megs is more agile than Rygama, I'm doubting your scenario.

Assuming he gets a chance to use it that many times...

...He won't...

He only needs one to cripple her. He could possibly even kill with a single well-placed sting.

Impressive.

Course Rygama's talons are more or less a no-limits falacy. They can stab through literally anything.

Hah, I can play that game too. Scorpius' acid can melt completely through literally anything.

The only thing keeping her from hacking off limbs with them is her lack of leverage in that position. Heck, if Spacegodzilla were built low to the ground, she'd have just stabbed his brain and been done with it. Of course her sheer strength dictates that if she tried that with a biped, she'd be more likely to send them flying than make that kind of penetration.

If they were so godly sharp, simple inertia shouldn't be a factor. If they were as powerful as you say, they should be able to turn anything to ribbons with a powerful enough swipe, because they slice though matter so easily that they wouldn't encounter enough resistance to send anything flying.

In short: Contradiction, AHOY!

Scorpius is very different.

Heck, she could easily just peel his armor off.

Yeah, stand still for a few seconds while you're well within range of several things that can horribly maim you. Brilliant strategy.

-snorts- For you maybe.

And for anything else, really. No heart means no circulation of blood, which means no nourishment for muscles, which means the muscles can't move. So regardless of how mch you don't like it, the fact remains that she would not be able to function for more than a minute without a heart or lungs.

His claws are strong, but the way he's built gives him incredibly little leverage. That puts him at a distinct disadvantage against this opponent. He tries to grab onto her, he'll get his pedipalps stomped into the ground.

Assuming she still has feet to do any stomping with in the first place.

No duh, Rygama could've gotten away with throwing pies in SG's face if she wanted to... She didn't see him as a threat so she didn't exert herself in killing him.

Aren't you the one that always criticizes SG for being arrogant and underestimating his opponents?

The gist of it is, that while Scorpius has three excellent offensive weapons, he's going up against something larger, stronger and more intelligent than anything he's ever been able to. Tearing it apart won't work here unless he does so completely, and it's going to be tearing him apart right back all the while.

See, this is what you don't seem to get. The moment Rygama loses an appendage - ANY appendage- her ability to fight is lowered. Not because of pain, but because losing an appendage cripples you. She loses a leg, she can no longer stand. She loses a wing, she can no longer fly. She loses an arm, she can no longer grapple. Any one of those is a severe hindrance, and makes it that much easier for Scorpius to repeat the process.

[Bio]

You can't see, hear, or smell without eyes, ears, and a nose. The entity can still be there all it wants, but if it doesn't have the organs through which to detect stimuli, it can't detect them.

Um, if I SAY it can, it can. Know why? Becauses it's kinda MY creation, and if I say that a vaporous entity can live its entire life sensing its environment through means other than eyes, then guess what bud? It can sense its environment through means other than its eyes.
It doesn't need eyes to see, its entire body has the hammerhead-like ability to percieve its environment through the electromagnetic particles around it.

How the hell are her muscles going to function without a blood supply to keep them nourished?

Nervous system infuses them with its own bio-energy supply as a temporary alternative fuel source.

The tossing and dropping really won't do much to him, but whatever.

From the trophosphere?

And there's still no way she can see without

Unless I say she can.

Funny, but I didn't see any displays of exceptional jaw strength on her part in the

Um, housabout gripping Spacegodzilla's neck with enough anchorage to bend his previously immobile neck back to the point of snapping? Housabout ripping out a chunk of it in her teeth?

And don't try that "Super strength is listed in her powers" stuff. Lifting things with your arms and legs has nothing to

"Super-Strength" applies to the entirety of her body. I would know, having written it.

Other bios of her specifically mention that her jaws are as strong as any other part of her body.

It's superheated, radioactive water. Scorpius is immune to radiation, including when it's

Are you familiar with the concept of a nuclear reactor? Radiation is used to heat water. Rygama's ray is in no way radiation-based. The radiation is used to bring the water to scalding temperatures, not harm opponents directly.

So that leaves it as superheated water which, if it's so incredibly hot, will evaporate almost instantly.

No duh, sherlok, it's plasma... read the sample battle again, you'll find that mentioned. It's a mixture of gas, plasma and liquid. All three of those have a way of seeping between armor plates.

First of all, acid isn't hot. Secondly, hot, radioactive water isn't corrosive. So yeah, Scorpius' acid will work fine.

As an omnivore, Rygama's stomach acids are grotesquely strong, and unlike you or I, Rygama can change her body to adapt to bodily inconviniences. Coating her esophagus in a protective layer of mucous that blocks out acid was one of her earliest merits. When you can digest bone, it pays to be able to survive vomiting. It was later strengthened to be able to withstand her own liquid heat blast.

Hah, I can play that game too. Scorpius' acid can melt completely through literally

Not at once, however.

Whoop-dee-doo. Scorpius' acid would've reduced them to a puddle of goo. What's your

Well, you are toting that acid around like it's the Holy Grail...

Yeah, stand still for a few seconds while you're well within range of several things that can horribly maim you.

Well, since it would kill him instantly and all...

And for anything else, really. No heart means no circulation of blood, which means no nourishment for muscles, which means the muscles can't move. So regardless of how mch you don't like it, the fact remains that she would not be able to function for more than a minute without a heart or

And a giant scorpion couldn't support itself with those scrawny legs, or heck, manage such a high-pitched cry, but do you hear me criticizing you for it? Rygama's bodily functions are more alien than anything we're ever seen on Earth, who are you to tell me what she can and can't do? She is a water-breathing Archosaur fossil brought back to life via a vaporous entity that lives in our trophosphere and posesses dead tissue, reviving it with biological radiation. Where in that summary does it say anything about sticking to the tradiitonal laws of biology?
In other words, if I SAY Rygama has Vorhees-like damage reduction, then guess what boy? She has Vorhees-like damage reduction.

Aren't you the one that always criticizes SG for being arrogant and underestimating his o

Understimating? Rygama could've raped SG if she felt like it! She's ALLOWED to play with him.

See, this is what you don't seem to get. The moment Rygama loses an appendage - ANY appendage- her ability to fight is lowered. Not because of pain, but because losing an appendage cripples you. She loses a leg, she can no longer stand. She loses a wing, she can no longer fly. She loses an arm, she can no longer grapple. Any one of those is a severe hindrance, and makes it that much easier for Scorpius to repeat the process

The fact that every single extrmity of her body is a lethal weapon, however, makes that less than crippling for her.

[Inferno Rodan]

bio said:

Um, if I SAY it can, it can. Know why? Becauses it's kinda MY creation, and if I say that a vaporous entity can live its entire life sensing its environment through means other than eyes, then guess what bud? It can sense its environment through means other than its eyes.
It doesn't need eyes to see, its entire body has the hammerhead-like ability to percieve its environment through the electromagnetic particles around it.

Hammerheads don't see with their ampullae of Lorenzini, bub. They sense electrical fields. And I don't see that listed in Rygama's stats.

You lose.

Nervous system infuses them with its own bio-energy supply as a temporary alternative fuel source.

That's not listed in her stats anywhere.

You lose again.

From the trophosphere?

Height is irrelevant after something reaches its terminal velocity, which only takes a few seconds. So yes, even from the trophosphere.

Unless I say she can.

You can say she can all you want, but if it's not listed in her stats it doesn't mean squat. I can say Scorpius could make Rygama spontaneously combust just by looking at her, but it's not listed in his stats, so it's moot.

Um, housabout gripping Spacegodzilla's neck with enough anchorage to bend his previously immobile neck back to the point of snapping? Housabout ripping out a chunk of it in her teeth?

The neck snapping was all arm/neck strength. And ripping a piece of flesh that had probably already been stretched to its limit isn't all that great of a feat.

"Super-Strength" applies to the entirety of her body. I would know, having written it.

And yet the only example you give involves arm and leg strength...

Other bios of her specifically mention that her jaws are as strong as any other part of her body.

But not the ones here. And those are the only ones that matter here.

Are you familiar with the concept of a nuclear reactor? Radiation is used to heat water. Rygama's ray is in no way radiation-based. The radiation is used to bring the water to scalding temperatures, not harm opponents directly.

Oooh, boiling water. I'm scared.

No duh, sherlok, it's plasma... read the sample battle again, you'll find that mentioned. It's a mixture of gas, plasma and liquid. All three of those have a way of seeping between armor plates.

Doesn't change the fact that it's superheated water, which will evaporate almost instantly. The bio describes it as water superheated by radiation. The description in the battle really makes no mention of it being any different, aside from a quick "plasmatic" thrown in before "seawater" when she uses it against the final wasp. Nowhere do you mention gases.

As an omnivore, Rygama's stomach acids are grotesquely strong, and unlike you or I, Rygama can change her body to adapt to bodily inconviniences. Coating her esophagus in a protective layer of mucous that blocks out acid was one of her earliest merits. When you can digest bone, it pays to be able to survive vomiting. It was later strengthened to be able tow ithstand her own liquid heat blast.

Firstly, just because I have very strong stomach acid, that doesn't mean I can chug highly concentrated sulfuric acid and not have a hole eaten in my stomach. Secondly, nowhere in Rygama's bio is it listed that she can change her own body to adapt.

You lose... again.

Not at once, however.

Nice job missing my point.

Well, you are toting that acid around like it's the Holy Grail...

Well, it is insanely strong.

Well, since it would kill him instantly and all...

Yeah... no.

And a giant scorpion couldn't support itself with those scrawny legs, or heck, manage such a high-pitched cry, but do you hear me criticizing you for it?

And yet he does both, so you have no way to dispute it. Rygama never displayed any impressive jaw strength, and it isn't listed in her stats, so I can quite easily dispute it.

Rygama's bodily functions are more alien than anything we're ever seen on Earth, who are you to tell me what she can and can't do? She is a water-breathing Archosaur fossil brought back to life via a vaporous entity that lives in our trophosphere and posesses dead tissue, reviving it with biological radiation. Where in that summary does it say anything about sticking to the tradiitonal laws of biology?
In other words, if I SAY Rygama has Vorhees-like damage reduction, then guess what boy? She has Vorhees-like damage reduction.

If it's not in the stats, what you say doesn't mean shit.

You lose x4.

Understimating? Rygama could've raped SG if she felt like it! She's ALLOWED to play with him.

But she didn't rape him. She toyed with him right from the start. She toyed with an enemy she knew nothing about. I have no reason to believe she won't attempt the same with Scorpius.

It's obvious by her reaction that she'd encountered the wasps before, so she didn't screw around with them.

The fact that every single extrmity of her body is a lethal weapon, however, makes that less than crippling for her.

No, it really doesn't. If she can't stand, she can't stand. If she can't fly, she can't fly. That IS crippling, regardless of how supposedly lethal the rest of her is, because it hampers her ability to fight.

[Bio]

Hammerheads don't see with their ampullae of Lorenzini, bub. They sense electrical fields. And I don't see that listed in Rygama's stats.

You lose.

Not talking about the ampullae, buddy. It's a seventh sense entirely.

And why should I go to the trouble of describing in detail that the entity has its own set of senses, when her bio describes it as a living being all its own, which, naturally, would be able to register its environment. How else do you think they find dead tissue to infest? It's not explained because it's obvious.

I win.

That's not listed in her stats anywhere.

You lose again.

Because it's not required. It's simply the nature of her biology. Her ability to shrug off damage IS mentioned in her bio, thusly it's entirely relevant.

I win again.

You can say she can all you want, but if it's not listed in her stats it doesn't mean squat. I can say Scorpius could make Rygama spontaneously combust just by looking at her, but it's not listed in his stats, so it's moot.

I mentioned that the entity was a living being all its own, common sense SHOULD tell you that it has its own set of senses. Or should I be getting after you for not mentioning Scorpius' ability to survive, despite his smaller bretheren lacking lungs sufficient to sustain something that size?

The neck snapping was all arm/neck strength.

Oh please, all her limbs did was anchor her to the spot. The breaking itself was done with her jaws and neck.

Oooh, boiling water. I'm scared.

It's not boiling water, smart guy, it's superheated plasmatic seawater. And it ate Spacegodzilla and the hornet alive, so I'd watch my mouth if I were you.

Doesn't change the fact that it's superheated water, which will evaporate almost instantly. The bio describes it as water superheated by radiation. The description in the battle really makes no mention of it being any different, aside from a quick "plasmatic" thrown in before "seawater" when she uses it against the final wasp. Nowhere do you mention gases.

Why should I be so inclined to mention gases? It's superheated seawater, of COURSE it generates gases from the cooled plasma.

Firstly, just because I have very strong stomach acid, that doesn't mean I can chug highly concentrated sulfuric acid and not have a hole eaten in my stomach. Secondly, nowhere in Rygama's bio is it listed that she can change her own body to adapt.

Oh good lord...

READ Rygama's REAL bio over at KG, and you might learn something. Her ability to modify her body is utterly useless in combat because it takes so long to work. That's why I made no mention of it in her combat bio.
Secondly, we DO see Rygama utterly unfased by a corona beam to the mouth. How does one create an oral resistance to heat? Usually through some sort of coating. In this case, that would be the case.

I win for the upteenth time now.

Yeah... no.

Being stabbed in the brain wouldn't kill him? Nonono, Rygama's MY monster, you're the one who's on the side of the bug.

If it's not in the stats, what you say doesn't mean shit.

That might mean something if it actually wasn't in the stats.

It is.

But she didn't rape him. She toyed with him right from the start. She toyed with an enemy she knew nothing about. I have no reason to believe she won't attempt the same with Scorpius.

Knew nothing about?! Baby, she could see inside him, and she had already been hit with his main weapon. She softend him up with a few hits, THEN started playing with him once she saw that his weapons didn't do jack to her. She could already see he was useless in melee, and if he actually had anything else worthwhile, he'd have used it on her by then. She knew he was helpless, so she didn't exert herself in finishing him off.

No, it really doesn't. If she can't stand, she can't stand. If she can't fly, she can't fly. That IS crippling, regardless of how supposedly lethal the rest of her is, because it hampers her ability to fight.

For one, she'd have to lose both legs, or both a leg and her tail before she was unable to stand.

Second, it takes a good deal more to cripple her than it does for Scorpius. Once she takes off the stinger, he's almost useless.

[Inferno Rodan]

bio said:

Not talking about the ampullae, buddy. It's a seventh sense entirely.

And why should I go to the trouble of describing in detail that the entity has its own set of senses, when her bio describes it as a living being all its own, which, naturally, would be able to register its environment. How else do you think they find dead tissue to infest? It's not explained because it's obvious.

I win.

Just because something can register its environment, that doesn't mean it can see. Something could easily find dead tissue simply be detecting chemicals in the surrounding air/water/ground. A method which is far too slow and vague to work against a living opponent.

So yeah, you still lose.

Because it's not required. It's simply the nature of her biology. Her ability to shrug off damage IS mentioned in her bio, thusly it's entirely relevant.

I win again.

Shrugging off damage is completely different from functioning without a blood supply.

You lose again.

I mentioned that the entity was a living being all its own, common sense SHOULD tell you that it has its own set of senses. Or should I be getting after you for not mentioning Scorpius' ability to survive, despite his smaller bretheren lacking lungs sufficient to sustain something that size?

Its own senses, yes. But again, that doesn't mean it can see on its own. An amoeba can sense its surroundings, but it can't see.

Oh please, all her limbs did was anchor her to the spot. The breaking itself was done with her jaws and neck.

Jaw strength isn't required to push something back. Her jaws just held SG's neck.

It's not boiling water, smart guy, it's superheated plasmatic seawater. And it ate Spacegodzilla and the hornet alive, so I'd watch my mouth if I were you.

And Scorpius is far more durable than either of them could ever hope to be. So it still won't do jack to him, aside from piss him off.

Why should I be so inclined to mention gases? It's superheated seawater, of COURSE it generates gases from the cooled plasma.

Oh good lord...

READ Rygama's REAL bio over at KG, and you might learn something. Her ability to modify her body is utterly useless in combat because it takes so long to work. That's why I made no mention of it in her combat bio.
Secondly, we DO see Rygama utterly unfased by a corona beam to the mouth. How does one create an oral resistance to heat? Usually through some sort of coating. In this case, that would be the case.

I win for the upteenth time now.

No, you don't. It's not mentioned in the bio here, so what is in her "real" bio is irrelevant, because here the bio that's posted on this site is the real bio. Not my fault you failed to mention half a dozen powers in it.

And in regards to the heat resistance, I'm not disputing that in the least. But acid doesn't generate heat (well, it might in some cases, but it's not what does the damage), so heat resistance it COMPLETELY moot.

Being stabbed in the brain wouldn't kill him? Nonono, Rygama's MY monster, you're the one who's on the side of the bug.

Yeah, being stabbed in the brain would kill him. But Rygama can't break through his exoskeleton.

And remember Bio, according to your own logic, I say Rygama can't penetrate it, and since Scorpius is my monster, that means she can't. Period. End of story.

Now, of course, you'll say that Rygama can penetrate Scorpius' exoskeleton, and since she's your monster, that means she can.

See the problem with that logic, Bio? Just saying something works that way doesn't fly.

That might mean something if it actually wasn't in the stats.

It is.

Knew nothing about?! Baby, she could see inside him, and she had already been hit with his main weapon. She softend him up with a few hits, THEN started playing with him once she saw that his weapons didn't do jack to her. She could already see he was useless in melee, and if he actually had anything else worthwhile, he'd have used it on her by then. She knew he was helpless, so she didn't exert herself in finishing him off.

Just because she can see inside him doesn't mean she knew what he was capable of. He could have had an attack capable of annihilating her instantly, but perhaps he'd be reluctant to use it because of the strain it put on him. If that were the case, she'd be screwed because of her arrogance.

For one, she'd have to lose both legs, or both a leg and her tail before she was unable to stand.

But she still wouldn't be able to walk effectively.

Second, it takes a good deal more to cripple her than it does for Scorpius. Once she takes off the stinger, he's almost useless.

It takes a good deal more to cripple her than him? Normally, yes. But Scorpius is capable of causing her to blow apart with a single attack. The two of them get into a tussle, Scorpius' tail whips around and plants itself in her torso (which is very likely right where it would go, given her stance), and Rygama blows apart after a few seconds.

[Bio]

ust because something can register its environment, that doesn't mean it can see. Something could easily find dead tissue simply be detecting chemicals in the surrounding air/water/ground. A method which is far too slow and vague to work against a living opponent.

How would such a mass be able to detect predators? If it relied on that simple method, it wouldn't, and its adaptation, which is the entire bloody reason Rygama even exsists, would be moot because it would never know when predators were becoming overpopulated, and thusly never know when to find a host and create a new Rygama.

No matter how badly you want it not to be true, Rygama's nervous system has its own set of senses that allow it to detect movement.

Shrugging off damage is completely different from functioning without a blood supply.

wounds that would be fatal to most creatures merely slow Rygama down. If torn apart, she will be unable to function, but simply puncturing a vital organ is worth very little against her.[/quote]

Now pipe down!

Its own senses, yes. But again, that doesn't mean it can see on its own. An amoeba can sense its surroundings, but it can't see.

I designed the blasted thing, IR, I would know these things...

Would YOU have felt inclined to explain something so minor? It's a free-floating being in our atmosphere that posesses dead bodies and makes monsters in order to keep predators from eating it, it's commin bloody sense!

And Scorpius is far more durable than either of them could ever hope to be. So it still won't do jack to him, aside from piss him off.

Correct: It won't do jack to his armor.

my fault you failed to mention half a dozen powers in it.

-smacks face-

IR, I have yet to mention a SINGLE freaking ability that Rygama posesses that was not mentioned in the bio. Destroying organs doesn't hurt her. In the bio. Her brain is an organism all its own. It's in the bio.

It's not my fault you lack the ability to accept the mechanics that I designed for her. I said, in the bio, that she can't be hurt just by destroying a vital organ, and you have to accept that whether you like it or not. How does she keep her body alive, even if her heart's not pumping blood? She uses bio-radiation to temporarily nourish it. I don't feel I need to get into exactly how she does it, you're just going to have to take it as it is.

"Puncturing a vital organ is worth very little against her."

Disabling her muscles by destroying her heart is worth a LOT, against her, thusly it cannot happen.

Deal with it.

And in regards to the heat resistance, I'm not disputing that in the least. But acid doesn't generate heat (well, it might in some cases, but it's not what does the damage), so heat resistance it COMPLETELY moot.

If Rygama's throat wasn't acid-resistant, she'd dissolve her esophagus the first time she vomited. As an omnivorous predator who swallows small prey whole, she's gonna vomit a few times to get something out of her. It's COMMON SENSE.

Or would you rather I list EVERYTHING about her in her bio to cover all possible cases? Ok, if you insist.
Her favorite color is green, she's an Aries, she has a heart rate of 128, she eats about 14 whales a month, she likes long walks on the beach and the scent of vanilla, she only watches TV on wednesdays, she has tea with Megaguirus every friday, she's aesexual, she's a blood type ABXYZ, she's afraid of big dogs, she likes salt in milkshakes, she's a devote fan of The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy...

Shall I go on?

Yeah, being stabbed in the brain would kill him. But Rygama can't break through his exoskeleton.

And remember Bio, according to your own logic, I say Rygama can't penetrate it, and since Scorpius is my monster, that means she can't. Period. End of story.

Now, of course, you'll say that Rygama can penetrate Scorpius' exoskeleton, and since she's your monster, that means she can.

See the problem with that logic, Bio? Just saying something works that way doesn't fly.

Retractable claws - Rygama's secondary weapons are the enormous talons semi-concealed in her paws. These claws can extend to frightening lengths and are dense enough and propelled by enough force to shear right through essentially anything.

That is to say, they can break through anything except themselves.

Just because she can see inside him doesn't mean she knew what he was capable of. He could have had an attack capable of annihilating her instantly, but perhaps he'd be reluctant to use it because of the strain it put on him. If that were the case, she'd be screwed because of her arrogance.

If he had such an attack, then:

1. He'd need some sort of large, visible apparatus to harness and channel that much energy. Even Godzilla has a uranium sac in his gut that lets him project his energy.

2. he'd have used it by the second time he was sent flying a couple city blocks.

But she still wouldn't be able to walk effectively.

As HP once said, "Walking is for poor people". Rygama can fly.

Oh! Did I mention this?

Psychadelic dance - Rygama's most exotic ability, save her oddly conceived brain, is her dance. Her wings are able to rapidly flash various colors in an endless pattern. Most sentient creatures that look into this seizure inducing dance will find themselves trapped in a waking dream, intently focused on the colors. The patterns will often trigger memories in victims, reminding them of a lifelong goal, a signifigant past event or perhaps a hated enemy, depending on the subject. The state of mesmerization lasts until the pattern ceases or a hard blow is dealt to the victim, which will usually snap them out.

Now, scorpius isn't "sentient", per se, but he displays some basic concepts and understanding in his sample battle scene, which tells me he's at least smarter than an ant, which gives him a good chance of falling under the spell. For example, bugs don't get angry, definitely not frustrated, and sure as hell don't celebrate their victories. In other words, the bug is unnaturally mentally advanced.

If he does fall for it, he's screwed with a capital 'screwed'. Rygama can fire up her siren's dance, grab the tail, rip the stinger right off, and be done with him.

It takes a good deal more to cripple her than him? Normally, yes. But Scorpius is capable of causing her to blow apart with a single attack.

MAYBE. A large sum of venom from one of the hornets caused her abdomen to split open, and nothing more.
Also, if he stings her once, he's not getting another shot. Were I in Vegas(l0l, pun), I wouldn't go betting that that one shot will save Scorp's life.