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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 24, 2008 23:55:34 GMT -5
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Post by Azure_Ghidorah on Aug 25, 2008 0:42:32 GMT -5
Two (maybe three) words: Anti-Gravity Field.
If Psychosis can survive long enough to use it, (which seems very possible given that his mind effects can work on mechs) Jericho is screwed badly.
Jericho, however, doesn't have to rely on one move to damage or disable Psychosis, and its quite possible that Jericho can still pull off the Satellite cannon if worst comes to worst...
I'll have to abstain until I find out if Jericho can use the Satellite cannon while the Anti-Gravity Field is on.
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Post by THE GODZILLA on Aug 25, 2008 13:53:12 GMT -5
Does Jericho have a pilot or does he have an A.I. system?
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Post by Omegarex24 on Aug 25, 2008 14:55:45 GMT -5
Neither actually. He has a very simplistic comptur program that basically works like:
Locate target- use all weapons until target is no longer a threat- If primary weapons fail, use Satellite Strike. -If that fails, then retreat-
That's all Jericho's programming consists of. He is sheer brute force. Psychosis might be able to do something with his mind raping abilities, but I doubt it. And should he whip out the anti-grav field, then the satellite strike can be brought into play, as long as the program is undamaged.
And should Psychosis be able to induce a hallucination, then Jericho is going to level the battlefield, which will eventually lead to Psychosis being hit. Jericho has the advantage, as he can last a lot longer than Psychosis in a prolonged fight.
I'm not going to level a vote yet, because I want to discuss this more.
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Post by THE GODZILLA on Aug 26, 2008 14:07:55 GMT -5
Neither actually. He has a very simplistic comptur program that basically works like: Locate target- use all weapons until target is no longer a threat- If primary weapons fail, use Satellite Strike. -If that fails, then retreat- Interesting. It's still, however, a computer system, which will, just like AI, be affected by the mind attacks. The simplistic nature is interesting though. Never thought Jericho operated like that. It's possible that the program may be damaged, but here's a question. If Psychosis does pop the Anti-Gravity Field, this means that Jericho falls apart, so he decides to use the Satellite Strike. If this attack does hit... would Jericho be blown up as well? Sure, his armor can take hits... but what about the Strike? Ah, but here's something about Psychosis that helps him in prolonged battles. He isn't affected by blood loss. Sure, the weapons will put the pain on, Psychosis can still chug on and not be held back by blood loss. I as well am not placing my vote just yet. Let us discuss this more. |
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Post by destoroyah on Aug 26, 2008 14:31:39 GMT -5
It's possible that the program may be damaged, but here's a question. If Psychosis does pop the Anti-Gravity Field, this means that Jericho falls apart, so he decides to use the Satellite Strike. If this attack does hit... would Jericho be blown up as well? Sure, his armor can take hits... but what about the Strike? I think OR stated in the Scorpius vs Jericho match that Jericho could withstand getting striked by the Satellite Strike. The question is whether or not Psychosis can withstand the strike. Btw, how does Psycho's mind attacks work on Jericho? I am just wondering since Jericho has a simple brain. |
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Post by THE GODZILLA on Aug 26, 2008 18:31:09 GMT -5
Btw, how does Psycho's mind attacks work on Jericho? I am just wondering since Jericho has a simple brain. Why wouldn't it work? A simpler mind just means that its tactics will be easier to read and understand. Granted, it won't help a ton if Jericho starts to try and bombard the area. Psychosis would probably try and avoid it via flight and catch him via reload times. This does help Jericho though in that Psychosis will probably not be able to find out that the Anti-Gravity Field is gonna mess him up really badly until he actually uses it. But Psychosis should be able to use it before getting hurt really badly. And was he assuming Jericho would survive if he wasn't damaged or? |
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Post by Omegarex24 on Aug 27, 2008 8:02:37 GMT -5
Jericho could survive a direct explosion from his SS, although he'd be pretty f**ked up afterwards. However, if eh does manage to target Psychosis and hit him and is only caught in the residual explosion, then he should come out with only moderate damage. Usually, he wouldn't use it at close range, but if worts comes to worst.
Also, if he was caught in the anti-grav field and used the SS, he would still be able to survive, as he doesn't have the same kinds of joints and such as a normal mech. The only parts on him that contain circuitry and moveable components are the core (which has the reactor, computer brain, ammo storage, etc, and the arms, because they contain the firing mechanisms for the Firestorm Cannons.
Also, one last question. Is Psychosis' mental assault a permanent effect, or does it wear off eventually? If it does, I think Jericho's brief moment fo clarity would allow him to knock Psychosis on his ass long enough to really open up the proverbial can of whoop-ass.
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Post by THE GODZILLA on Aug 30, 2008 13:00:05 GMT -5
I'm really sorry for posting so late, band made me forget about this. Jericho could survive a direct explosion from his SS, although he'd be pretty f**ked up afterwards. However, if eh does manage to target Psychosis and hit him and is only caught in the residual explosion, then he should come out with only moderate damage. Usually, he wouldn't use it at close range, but if worts comes to worst. Are you referring to him being undamaged, or messed up pretty badly BEFORE he uses the weapon? What if his armor is torn into? Yes, it's ridiculously tough, but once Psychosis fires a couple of Anti-Matter Beams, he's gonna get into that armor. However, due to its moderate damage, it'll take a couple of shots, for sure. It lasts for a moderate amount of time before it wears off, but that's normally not an issue due to Psychosis using mind attacks over and over again, so the effects will stay up. Even in that clarity, Jericho might have trouble hitting Psychosis if he stays in flight. Would he hit him? Good chance he will, but he'd probably miss most of his attacks in the process. What's a pain in the ass is that due to Jericho's armor, he can't mind control him to really mess him up. BUT, he can always cause the SS to target Jericho. And that's not gonna end good. |
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Post by destoroyah on Aug 31, 2008 17:25:41 GMT -5
Even in that clarity, Jericho might have trouble hitting Psychosis if he stays in flight. Would he hit him? Good chance he will, but he'd probably miss most of his attacks in the process. While you're right about that, wouldn't a couple of rounds be enough to take down Psychosis? The firestorm cannons can fire a crap load of bullets that can ignite when striked and they are gonna do some hurtin' on Psycho. I think I will lean on Jericho because one well placed round from a stonehenge cannon or a barrage of bullets from a firestrorm cannon could put Psycho down. Then of course there's the satellite strike which I doubt Psycho could survive a hit from... Jericho |
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Aug 31, 2008 20:37:12 GMT -5
Blarg... I wish you two would debate this more...
Anyway, even if Psychosis can read Jericho's "mind", there's no way he can dodge a shot from the Stonehenge Cannons. And it'll only take a couple hits to seriously injure, if not kill, Psychosis. Not being hurt by blood loss is fine and all, but it doesn't save you from being killed from sheer trauma.
So for the moment, I'm gonna side with Jericho.
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Post by THE GODZILLA on Sept 1, 2008 15:25:37 GMT -5
I really wish that Omega would have responded to my question about the Satellite Cannon. Cause I wouldn't mind using the SS on Jericho if he's damaged. Cause that's a win for me. Or Jericho would have trouble hitting me due to being screwed around with his "mind".
But whatever. There's no way I can come back now, since I doubt you guys are gonna change your votes. Either way, I'm still voting Psychosis. Jericho will be too messed up to effectively attack Psychosis, even if he fired all his weapons randomly all over (I just figured out that Psychosis can just fly above him while Jericho fires along the ground like a drunken gunmen). And if Jericho is damaged enough and tries to use the SS, Psychosis will take control and divert the attack on him.
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Post by Omegarex24 on Sept 1, 2008 22:24:59 GMT -5
To answer your question about the satellite cannon, Jericho would be seriously messed up if he got hit with it, but was relatively undamaged before he used it.
However, I think Jericho{/b] can pull off a win here. There's enough time for him to readily open up with the Firestorm Cannons, brining in even further delay for him to get off at least one round from the Stonehenge Cannons. And even if Psychosis can't bleed to death, he can still be destroyed/killed by sheer trauma, as IR pointed out. Jericho is one of the few monsters here that is capable of stopping Psychosis, as it might at least be more difficult for him to affect him with the mind raping.
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Post by THE GODZILLA on Sept 2, 2008 13:58:55 GMT -5
To answer your question about the satellite cannon, Jericho would be seriously messed up if he got hit with it, but was relatively undamaged before he used it. Thus if injured before it he would more than likely blow the hell up. Thanks for telling me that now. That will obviously effect the voting now.  I find it funny when people say that they can hit Psychosis at the start of the match, even though Psychosis will see it coming from his mind reading. And he countered every attack used against him, except one due to him being busy with another monster. AWESOME! Another overlooked point. And least affective? How so? He's still gonna get mind raped just like any other kaiju would. But o shit guyz, apparently simple minds make you less vulnerable to being mind raped. But what the hell is the point of even going? Doubt you guys give a flying f**k anymore now that I FINALLY got a question answered which could allow me to debate this out. Excellent. I got reminded again why I hate FMs with fan kaiju. |
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Post by Inferno Rodan on Sept 2, 2008 15:16:11 GMT -5
I find it funny when people say that they can hit Psychosis at the start of the match, even though Psychosis will see it coming from his mind reading. And he countered every attack used against him, except one due to him being busy with another monster. AWESOME! Another overlooked point. Knowing an attack is coming doesn't help if it's too fast to avoid. By the time Psychosis knows Jericho is going to fire, he'll already by flying through the air with a big hole blown in his hide. |
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