KOTA: Rygama vs. Shroom

[Monster Master]

Rygama

vs.

Shroom

Arena: Monster Island (Destroy All Monsters variant)

[Bio]

Looking over Shroom's specs, it strikes me that he's not in a good spot right here. He's going up against a creature who's not only going to be phenominally resistant to his acid - due to her thick armor and even thicker muscle - but can ignite her skin at will. Let's not get into Ry's inherent shredding abilities. She's pretty perfectly equipped for this opponent.

[HyperGFreak]

...leaning towards Queen Rygama for this one. She's a mother f*ckin' tank, and somehow I have doubts about Shroom's abilities to keep her bound down for this. If and when she gets into melee, I don't think the spores are going to stop her much, either...ugh...yeah. The superheated beams aren't helping Shroom, either, so...

[THE GODZILLA]

Wow, I have band for a night and fall back 3 votes because I can't defend my monster. Polls are horrible ideas unless debates happen before decisions are made.

Well, I'm probably screwed because of the damned poll, but I guess I can still atleast try to defend my damn monster.

bio said:

Looking over Shroom's specs, it strikes me that he's not in a good spot right here. He's going up against a creature who's not only going to be phenominally resistant to his acid - due to her thick armor and even thicker muscle - but can ignite her skin at will. Let's not get into Ry's inherent shredding abilities. She's pretty perfectly equipped for this opponent.

Wow, you obviously don't have any idea about Shroom's abilities.

How the hell is acid not gonna effect Rygama? Her armor is gonna protect her? Yes, armor that will be melted away is gonna help her. Ignition of skin? Apparently you completely forgot that Shroom can put himself out at will. In fact, he retained ZERO damage from Birdon's flames.

Shredding attacks will only cause Rygama pain, since it's gonna get her covered in spores. Not to mention Shroom is just gonna regenerate his wounds.

And of course, Shroom's toxins aren't gonna be very nice to Rygama, especially due to her weakness. Shroom has Rygama's abilities covered quite well too, so Rygama is DEFINITELY not "well equipped" for this fight.

Now then, I, unlike most others, am going to wait for Bio to discuss with me more about this battle, instead of blantly choosing a winner without even letting the other person come in and defend their creation.

[Bio]

How the hell is acid not gonna effect Rygama? Her armor is gonna protect her? Yes, armor that will be melted away is gonna help her.

Rygama doesn't rely on armor. She has decent armor plating, but it's not why she's a tank.
Rygama is like walking stone, albeit much less brittle. Her body's density will absorb the damage by repelling the acid to the point where it only damages her skin.
While with most partially hollow organisms, acid will seep through the skin and wreak havoc inside, Rygama's ultra-dense body prevents it from going very deep into her.

Ignition of skin? Apparently you completely forgot that Shroom can put himself out at will. In fact, he retained ZERO damage from Birdon's flames.

Two things.

1. Rygama's heat beam IS moisture. It's a very alien weapon that somehow allows water to burn like oil. It won't thrive when exposed to water, of course, but water will have no adverse effects on the beam. She can use it underwater quite easily.

2. Her thermal aura, incidentally, does thrive on moisture. Hence why it's more effective underwater. Shroom's ability to eject water from his body to douse flames may as well be oil expulsion.

Shredding attacks will only cause Rygama pain, since it's gonna get her covered in spores.

As Matt Frank says, 'Pain is NOTHING!!!!!'

That, and a quick thermal aura covers that little problem.

Not to mention Shroom is just gonna regenerate his wounds.

Wendigo's regeneration, going by Shroom's bio, is roughly on par with Shroom's, yet we all know who won that fight...

Rygama's a walking can-opener in many senses of the word. Regeneration won't save you.

And of course, Shroom's toxins aren't gonna be very nice to Rygama, especially due to her weakness.

Are these hemotoxins? Let me point out that Rygama's only vulnerability to venom is her susceptibility to hemotoxins, which have an effect on her that is a very real condition common to humans. If anything, she would be resistant to conventional venoms, due to her sheer size minimizing the dose.

Shroom has Rygama's abilities covered quite well too, so Rygama is DEFINITELY not "well equipped" for this fight.

She effectively turns Shroom into his own personal oilspill, and Ry's the match. Tell me he's well adapted for her.

[THE GODZILLA]

Rygama doesn't rely on armor. She has decent armor plating, but it's not why she's a tank.
Rygama is like walking stone, albeit much less brittle. Her body's density will absorb the damage by repelling the acid to the point where it only damages her skin.
While with most partially hollow organisms, acid will seep through the skin and wreak havoc inside, Rygama's ultra-dense body prevents it from going very deep into her.

Just because you have more density doesn't mean it can't still cause damage. If given time, that acid CAN go deep into her by melting through. The keyword is time though.

1. Rygama's heat beam IS moisture. It's a very alien weapon that somehow allows water to burn like oil. It won't thrive when exposed to water, of course, but water will have no adverse effects on the beam. She can use it underwater quite easily.

Then Shroom will absorb it. Doesn't matter how hot it is, it's moisture and will be absorbed.

2. Her thermal aura, incidentally, does thrive on moisture. Hence why it's more effective underwater. Shroom's ability to eject water from his body to douse flames may as well be oil expulsion.

Where does it say in her bio that it thrives on moisture?

That, and a quick thermal aura covers that little problem.

Unless they get into her body, which is possible if there's open wounds from the acid.

Wendigo's regeneration, going by Shroom's bio, is roughly on par with Shroom's, yet we all know who won that fight...

Rygama's a walking can-opener in many senses of the word. Regeneration won't save you.

Wendigo didn't have spores to defend himself nor roots to entangle Rygama in place. While she can break the hold of them, it may take her a few seconds, which leaves her open for attack.

Are these hemotoxins? Let me point out that Rygama's only vulnerability to venom is her susceptibility to hemotoxins, which have an effect on her that is a very real condition common to humans. If anything, she would be resistant to conventional venoms, due to her sheer size minimizing the dose.

Yes, they are hemotoxins. When coming up with Shroom's attacks, I kept in mind the "root 'em and weaken them". They wreck havoc while the foe attempts to get out of the roots, all the while wasting energy as their body begins to shut down.

I've got to say, Rygama does a nice job at countering this.

She effectively turns Shroom into his own personal oilspill, and Ry's the match. Tell me he's well adapted for her.

Considering he can absorb the superheated water and wreak havoc on her with his toxins, yes, he has an edge in this. Whether or not it puts him above Rygama or not in this battle still makes me wonder. I'm starting to lean towards Rygama though...

[Bio]

Just because you have more density doesn't mean it can't still cause damage. If given time, that acid CAN go deep into her by melting through. The keyword is time though.

That would take a large amount of acid and considerable time. These factors render it an inferor method of attack, and not very well suited for this kind of enemy.

Then Shroom will absorb it. Doesn't matter how hot it is, it's moisture and will be absorbed.

I did not explain that correctly.

Rygama's heat beam is in fact plasma, but it's moisture turned plasma. It's not, itself, moisture, but it's not fire and not subject to being doused by more moisture. It's closer to lightning or your standard heat ray than anything.

Where does it say in her bio that it thrives on moisture?

It states that it covers a wider area and is more effective underwater. Now, anything that turns water unbearably hot would logically turn thin air unbearably hot too. However, this is not the case, as it's prettymuch touch only on land.
This means that Rygama's thermal aura is conducted by water.

Unless they get into her body, which is possible if there's open wounds from the acid.

Acid has a habit of cauterizing wounds.

Wendigo didn't have spores to defend himself nor roots to entangle Rygama in place. While she can break the hold of them, it may take her a few seconds, which leaves her open for attack.

Possibly, but Ry doesn't need to cut them to break free. It seems more likely that she'll simply rip them off as she moves.

Yes, they are hemotoxins. When coming up with Shroom's attacks, I kept in mind the "root 'em and weaken them". They wreck havoc while the foe attempts to get out of the roots, all the while wasting energy as their body begins to shut down.

Well, that does strike me a rather effective weapon, but let's keep in mind that when entangled, Ry may activate her thermal aura if the vines prove troublesome. The spores aren't likely to enter her body if it's hotter than most heat beams.

[THE GODZILLA]

I concede. I'm in no mood to debate anymore nor argue. Rygama wins.

[Bio]

Actually, this is the first match I've participated in for the tournament where I didn't feel the need to scream or yell at the opposition for ignoring or assuming something.

If you feel Shroom is the winner, you should vote for him.

[THE GODZILLA]

bio said:

Actually, this is the first match I've participated in for the tournament where I didn't feel the need to scream or yell at the opposition for ignoring or assuming something.

If you feel Shroom is the winner, you should vote for him.

I've already voted for Rygama. I wouldn't have caught up either way, which is one of the reasons I depise using a poll for deciding tournaments. I believe you should see the other person's views of things before voting (when it comes to polls), because you can't change your vote once you click that button.

Doesn't help that I missed out on defending my monster due to something that's going to be a pain in the ass when I return to school on Tuesday. Le sigh.